Can you operate the slide stop with right thumb on CZ Compact?

[HP-Sauce]

I have a CZ Compact and I find myself getting into the habit of operating the slide stop using my left hand after a magazine change. Seems the slide stop is just a little beyond reach of my right thumb. Is this a common problem?

[TX_Southpaw]

First...welcome!

It varies from hand to hand.  You'll see other topics where guys want a shorter slide stop because their thumb rides the slide stop, and it doesn't stay open on the last round.

[Canuck44]

I am not so sure it is a problem.  I operate the slide stop with my left thumb with all my guns including my 75-D Compact.

Take Care

Bob

[Cesar]

Thumbs can be quite different in length with different people, ya know? 

One can also 'slam' magazine into gun to get slide close thus no need to manipulate slide stop - that's what I do, takes some practice thou. I personally find it faster than working slide stop, given slide stop 'shaft' is broken in or smoothed out.

[Canuck44]

What do you do when the slide doesn't fall?

Take care

Bob

[mkd]

hp sauce. there are different ways to operate the slide. the only training class i have taken taught the left hand release or the slingshot method.  heres a good demo of both. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfIaMB1TvLI&list=FLNijkBkeSiG3CnjoqiElnBA   he also has a good demo on proper grip.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJrA7wMXuuQ&list=FLNijkBkeSiG3CnjoqiElnBA

[Alpha Sierra]

His habit of holding the pistol by hooking a finger into the trigger guard is unbelievably dumb.  There is absolutely no good reason for it and I tuned him out because of it.

[Genin]

Same exact thing I thought. I've seen his grip video before and wrote him off after he repeatedly held the firearm by placing his fingers into the trigger guard. What a horrible training scar to give yourself.

[mkd]

probably just a nervous habit in front of the camera.  my instruction was not from this guy but alot of the training i got was reinforced by him. the finger inside the guard (i'm thinking his left pointer finger) seems to be a "in front of the camera thing".

[Canuck44]

The sling shot method is super tacticool but is slower than using the slide stop lever.  Top competition shooters use the slide stop for a reason....it is faster.  As Mass Ayoob says, " A competition is not a gun fight BUT a gun fight is always a competition".

I have seen a guy fill his hand with brass shards when his hand slipped and the round hit the ejector and went bang when unloading and have had bad karma ever since when it comes to putting my hand around the ejection port when the slide is  or about to move.

Take Care

Bob

[Alpha Sierra]

probably just a nervous habit in front of the camera. 

Maybe so.  But someone of his caliber should know better. 

I cannot believe that he did not review that video before loading it.  I am sure that he did so.  Which begs the question, either he was so unattentive that missed it then too; or saw it and didn't care.

[MeatAxe]

It wasn't so long ago that the latest fad grip technique was to keep the index finger of your weak hand on the front of the trigger guard, hence nearly every pistol made now has a finger grip on the front of the trigger guard -- which gives such index finger a lot of leverage to torque the pistol off target, especially in a stress situation.

http://www.usacarry.com/proper-grip-get-dip-cam-correct/

This thumb over thumb grip is just the latest fad grip technique. To me it doesn't make any sense to put your weak hand in position to interfere with the slide, slide stop, safety, mag release, etc. when you're shooting in a stress situation. Contrary to what the guy said, you actually have less leverage against recoil / muzzle flip than if the weak hand was placed lower on the grip, where it would also insure that the mag stays in the gun.

** Link removed per remote admin, 5/8/2015 wlc

[Alpha Sierra]

This thumb over thumb grip is just the latest fad grip technique. To me it doesn't make any sense to put your weak hand in position to interfere with the slide, slide stop, safety, mag release, etc. when you're shooting in a stress situation. Contrary to what the guy said, you actually have less leverage against recoil / muzzle flip than if the weak hand was placed lower on the grip, where it would also insure that the mag stays in the gun.

** Link removed per remote admin, 5/8/2015 wlc

I'll listen to Travis Healy, who actually has experience in combat, plus gives solid biomechanical reasons why the "latest fad" grip is so effective; than listen to you (what are your qualifications?) who uses some Big Army manual as justification for an ineffective grip that has been abandoned by virtually every action pistol competitor on the planet.

Weak hand lower on the gun gives more control over muzzle rise?  LOL
Cup and Saucer and Weaver grips?  LOLOLOL

You also might want to tell Frank Proctor, Ben Stoeger, Adam Tyc, Angus Hobdell, and a host of other USPSA, IPSC, and IDPA champions that they are doing it wrong.

http://youtu.be/tMzQIHN-LiI

[Alpha Sierra]

OP, using the support hand thumb (left in both yours and my case) is a completely legitimate and efficient technique.

The ideal is to use the strong hand thumb to drop the slide release ONLY if the grip does not have to be compromised to reach the slide release.  That all depends on the length of your strong hand thumb in relation to the location of the slide release.

If using the strong hand thumb to release the slide means changing the grip to do so, one is MUCH better off from both the speed and consistency points of view to use the weak hand thumb to release the slide after seating the magazine, then placing the weak hand back on the gun properly.

[steerclr]

Good video on the mechanics of recoil vs grip style.  Thanks for posting