CajunGunWorks and my P-01

[Birds Away]

I get a little frustrated when I am told what is and what is not right for me.  Thanks for your input.

[schmeky]

Full blown race hammar gun is too light for an EDC for most, both mine came in at 2.6-2.8 lb short trigger with nil creep! Talk about LIGHT

Your particular situation is pretty rare.  Practically every time the CGW hammers drop in a produce a safe, consistent 3.3 - 3.6# SA, which is ideal for EDC.  This has been proven by the feedback from our customers. 

Why yours is to light could be from a number of factors, but to make a blanket claim they are to light for everyone, is simply not justified. 

[coolbox]

Full blown race hammar gun is too light for an EDC for most, both mine came in at 2.6-2.8 lb short trigger with nil creep! Talk about LIGHT

Your particular situation is pretty rare.  Practically every time the CGW hammers drop in a produce a safe, consistent 3.3 - 3.6# SA, which is ideal for EDC.  This has been proven by the feedback from our customers. 

Why yours is to light could be from a number of factors, but to make a blanket claim they are to light for everyone, is simply not justified.

My EDC is a fine tuned 2.8 lb SP01. I find it a tad heavy. I prefer 2.5#
I am looking to carry a SP01 Shadow in future. I will tune it to 2.2-2.5#.

Triggers, like women and wine, are personal preference. As they say, to each his own.

[huskert]

I am also going to defend CGW's race hammer here too. I know what they weigh in at on a digital Lyman trigger guage if you drop them in. Now I also know how to tune them to make them lighter if I want them by really polishing them up with all the contact areas. To the original poster, feel free to PM me if you want a reference for CGW/David. You will not be disappointed or go wrong with any of his parts. You can call David up on the phone and speak to him directly and he will not steer you wrong on what you want out of your CZ.

[copemech]

I get a little frustrated when I am told what is and what is not right for me.  Thanks for your input.

I hope you do not think I am telling you what is right for you.

I will though if you want me to!

Full blown race hammar gun is too light for an EDC for most, both mine came in at 2.6-2.8 lb short trigger with nil creep! Talk about LIGHT

Your particular situation is pretty rare.  Practically every time the CGW hammers drop in a produce a safe, consistent 3.3 - 3.6# SA, which is ideal for EDC.  This has been proven by the feedback from our customers. 

Why yours is to light could be from a number of factors, but to make a blanket claim they are to light for everyone, is simply not justified. 

You may be right, how should I know, as I have only done two. I shall therefore attribute it to my superior skills in polishing and assembly, big hammar and Duckbutter lube! No blanket here, your mileage may vary.

I will however maintain my stand that not everyone trains to the level of proficiency and respect that a light short trigger requires, specially in a light compact gun. Carefull what you ask for! I do like the one quote, "Life is too short for s---ty triggers."!!!

I am also going to defend CGW's race hammer here too. I know what they weigh in at on a digital Lyman trigger guage if you drop them in. Now I also know how to tune them to make them lighter if I want them by really polishing them up with all the contact areas. To the original poster, feel free to PM me if you want a reference for CGW/David. You will not be disappointed or go wrong with any of his parts. You can call David up on the phone and speak to him directly and he will not steer you wrong on what you want out of your CZ.

 

I would be qurious to know the drop in numbers you got with no other mods.


Am I against the racehammer? Well, as stated I have two in service that are staying there. Quite honestly it seems the only real way to "polish the turd" of a gun that was designed on different parameters. Mericanizing we call it! I am considering a Rami project for a CCW and the question remains in my mind if it will receive the full meal deal? Not sure yet, compare it to a Glock, everything has to compare to a glock, right? As it is perfunction! F-that!

Polish the turd, well, they are what they are from new. David makes a living polishing turds, whats wrong with that, nothing! I have owned a lot more costly guns that I liked a lot less than my turd!(s)

[Birds Away]

I have the "full meal deal", as you call it, on my RAMI.  It is about 6# DA and about 3# SA.  It is a joy to shoot and makes for a very confident carry.  You will be amazed at the accuracy of this little gun.  I have race hammers and complete customizing of all my carry guns.  I believe in having all of your guns set up identically for consistency.  That way you aren't going from a stiffer to lighter trigger or vice versa.  That is when you can get into trouble. Just my two cents.

[CZ Taji]

Thanks to the OP's original question I learned quite a bit from this thread.

Schmeky's distillation was superb

While copemech's observations and experience was also quite illuminating too. even with the fact that his guns were unique and not the standard/typical numbers as he 1st. alluded to.

The fact that so many folks here have various levels of experience, and knowledge makes for a great learning environment1
 Then add in the professional insights of CZ custom shop & Cajun Gun Works to help us make our guns sweet and give us proper information just makes being here beneficial. 

unfortunately i now have to call the shop to see if they can somehow match up my trigger job on my PO 7 as closely as possible to my sdp compact.

[bluesguy72]

^ I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm the OP and totally got all the answers I was looking for. Especially schmeky's explanation of the hammer vs springs/SA vs DA explanation. Of course, I guess he would know! Thanks schmeky. You'll be hearing from me soon....

And thanks to everyone else too!

[Canuck44]

One comment on nice triggers.  When sitting in front of the tV and dry firing my pistols, man a smooth trigger is something to smile about.  Crisp break is sweet.  Now I have shot my 75D Compact in competitions absolutely stock.  Early on once with about 50 rds on the gun.  To this day while shooting competitions I can say without hesitation I have never felt the trigger, either when I was shooting one of my smooth as silk guns or when I shot my stock 75D with 50 rounds on it. 

It maybe just me but the only time I ever notice how nice it is to have a smooth light trigger pull is when shooting out to 35 yards in IDPA.  Otherwise, I am not sure when under pressure it makes much difference.  I know this is counter to the quest for a smooth trigger but if you are buying a gun for CCW know if you decide to spend extra money for a light, smooth trigger, it likely is so you can admire it when dry firing in front of a tv set.   Just saying...Bob Vogel won his first World IPSC Production crown with a stock Glock 17 with Sevigny sights on it.  ISPC has the minimum 5lb trigger pull for the first shot.  Stock Glock triggers are something less than light and smooth.

Go shoot a local IDPA or IPSC match before you spend a bunch of money on parts and see if you feel that gritty feeling you feel when sitting in front of a tv set dry firing.  My bet is you won`t and neither will your score.

 Take care

Bob

[Birds Away]

While I respect your opinion.  I completely disagree with it.  While you might not feel it.  Your scores will certainly reflect it.

[Canuck44]

While I respect your opinion.  I completely disagree with it.  While you might not feel it.  Your scores will certainly reflect it.

I doubt it really.  Most shots in IDPA and IPSC are within 15 yards.  I have timed my splits and there isn`t enough difference to talk about if you average them out.    I would certainly like to think so and more importantly see the difference in my scoring but frankly I have not.  For guys at the top of the game it likely woudl make a difference where times when Vogel is not shooting are very close between 1st ans 2nd but I am not convinced as a B and C Shooter in IPSC and a Sharpshooter in IDPA that I have the talent to make a smooth trigger impact my scores significantly one way or another.

If you do not feel any difference when shooting under pressure and your splits are the same, then the benefits are pretty slim.  For CCW I would think most stock triggers are more than adequate for most shooters.

All that said, if the shooter thinks it does then go for it.  If we all felt the same way there would be one happy lady in this world and a lot of unhappy ones. .  I do like a smooth trigger though and I have spent the money to get one.  The real difference I find it makes is you lighten your bank account and that isn`t all bad either when the money goes to a gun.

Take Care

Bob

[Birds Away]

That's too bad.  I guess everyone is different.  The smoother DA has helped with first shot accuracy and subsequent shots are also more accurate and faster.