Skorpion EVO pistol is HERE!

[350zrb]

Yup. I am keeping my hope up.
I went ahead and ordered Meopta ZD M-RAD to go with the gun I don't have yet. LOL.
It was on sale so I had to do it.

[mikec]

Where?  How much?

[350zrb]

Cabela's about $250 I think.

[RSR]

FWIW, one of the major complaints regarding the Bren is the choice to go w/ "inferior" Russian optics over Western ones...

Short version from this translation -- it weights more and is larger than an aimpoint, and has a much shorter battery life...  Perhaps some other durability issues as well.

AN: Why buying unproven products Meopta when there are market-proven products? Sight Meopta is about one third larger and heavier than for example a similar sight Aimpoint company. In exactly the same function but sight Meopta works up to 100 times less time than Aimpoint sights.
TO: Accessories has been sourced in the tender, where the minimum required parameters (weight, operational deployment - stamina, rectification, and thermal shock resistance and a number of other parameters). The condition was passing the inspection and field tests. Products Meopta set parameters and tests met. The selection criteria were in compliance with the basic parameters as well as the price and weight of the weapon system

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=68088.0

Good read also: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/07/22/meopta-optics-cz-bren-805/

[350zrb]

I like variety in my collection. I have MPX on order, should have it any day now. Still, I also want EVO 3.

[RSR]

ICYMI: Palmetto State Armory Just released their Pistol 9mm AR: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/15/palmetto-state-armory-9mm-ar15-pistol-kits/

$549 vs the "sale" price of $599 for the rifle.  I picked up the rifle upper/lower kit on black friday, sans magazine, for $499 on black friday.  To complete, you need a "multi-cal" lower, so that's plus $75 or so depending...

Haven't shot it yet, but all in, I'll probably have at least $700 in the build with Geissele G2S being the biggest part of that extra with magpul furniture being the rest...

Point being -- by comparison, the EVO is, almost certainly, is priced to sell a lot of units provided it works as advertised...

[armoredman]

I would have to agree - the price point is right on target to move, unlike the BREN pistol. Perhaps the rifle will be different...
The one thing I wish CZ-USA was offering is the complete setup EVO with SiG Brace and adapter installed as an option.

[doc187]

I preordered one.  Where do I get the sigbrace adapter?

[Psyop96]

I would have to agree - the price point is right on target to move, unlike the BREN pistol. Perhaps the rifle will be different...

I got an idea - you guys buy up all the EVO pistols and let's all agree to refrain (restrain?) from buying the Bren pistol. That way, CZ will get the hint and drop the price, hopefully by the time the rifle is approved for sale.

[armoredman]

There won't be any problem selling out on EVOs, that I think is pretty much assured!

At the rumored price of the BREN pistol, I won't have any difficulty restraining myself - it's well above my bi weekly paycheck.

[CPTKILLER]

I'm wondering if the CZ Scorpion EVO will come out in 40 S&W and be CZ reliable?

[armoredman]

I'd love to see it in 10mm...

[RSR]

I don't think this writer fully understands the ATF shotgun brace decision -- scroll back a few pages for a more nuanced, and I think accurate, discussion of the facts there...

Regardless more of the same on mounting a pistol brace to your shoulder being considered "converting" the weapon to a different class -- this time from a non-NFA to a NFA class vs the shotgun which was from one NFA class to another...

AR Pistol Braces Get Even More Confusing Following Latest ATF Letter
12/20/14

Like the recent shotgun letter, this letter seems to show that the ATF may be backtracking on their original ?intent and use? decisions. The new letter states the following [emphasis added by the ATF]:

Based on our evaluation, FTISB finds that the submitted forearm brace, when attached to a pistol is a ?firearm? subject to the GCA provisions; however, it is not a ?firearm? as defined by the NFA provided that the Blade AR Pistol Stabilizer is used as originally designed and NOT as a shoulder stock.

Of course, as everyone knows ATF letters only apply to the individual products they are referencing. However, it is an interesting datapoint that might show a general change in position from the ATF on forearm braces. I?m not trying to tell anyone what is/is not legal or trying to read the ATF?s mind, just passing along data points.

Click through for more: http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/ar-pistol-braces-get-even-more-confusing-following-latest-atf-letter/

[armoredman]

It could change things, certainly , but we'll see. I tend to agree that the original letter for the original product is what I would tend to depend on, ATM, but as we've seen, they can change thier collective minds.

[RSR]

Just saw this today:
http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/breaking-atf-issues-new-opinion-letter-stating-that-shouldering-sig-brace-is-illegal/

BREAKING: ATF Issues New Opinion Letter Stating That Shouldering Sig Brace Could Be Illegal
DECEMBER 26 2014
[...]
However, several recent letters, including the one that just emerged in the last 24 hours, tends to show that the ATF is changing their tune on shouldering arm braces.
Here is the letter in question which was posted AR15.com earlier today (however the letter seems to be from November). Note paragraph 5 of the 2nd page:
[...]

The Sig Sauer SB-15 pistol stabilizing brace is designed so that a shooter would insert his or her forearm into the device while gripping the pistol's handgrip -- then tighten the Velcro straps for additional support and retention.  As designed, the device provides the shooter with additional support of a firearm while it is still held and operated with one hand  Consequently, a Sig SB-15 shoting brace is not designed or intended for firing a weapon from the shoulder.

Consequently, the attachment of the SB-15 to an AR-type pistol alone; would not change the classification of the pistol to an SBR.  However, if this device, un-modified or modified; is assembled to a pistol and used as a shoulder stock, thus designing or redesigning or making or remaking of a weapon design to be fired from the shoulder; this assembly would constitute the making of a "rifle" as defined in 18 U.S.C. Section 921(a)(7).
[...]
Further, if this device, un-modified or modified; is assembled to a pistol and used as a shoulder stock, in the designing or redesigning or making or remaking of a weapon designed to be fired from the shoulder, which incorporates a barrel length of less than 16 inches; this assemble would constitute the making of a "a rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length"; an NFA firearm as defined in 26 U.S.C., Section 5845(a)(3).

[...]
It would seem that all recent letters to the ATF are getting a similar response in regards to braces ? the ATF isn?t cool with it.
[...]
Once again, these are just opinion letters. The real test would come in a criminal court if someone was caught shouldering an AR pistol and arrested.

Click through for more: http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/breaking-atf-issues-new-opinion-letter-stating-that-shouldering-sig-brace-is-illegal/