85 trigger

[Okla.Dave]

I'm  thinking about putting in a 85 trigger with over travel screw.
What importance would you give for this change?

I would like to have feed back from those that have or had this trigger.

Thanks

[viking499]

New model or old model 85 trigger?

[Okla.Dave]

old model w/ set screw

[skippyaz]

For me, it's a necessity. I have large hands and fingers, and find the 85C trigger is much more comfortable, given its larger radius.

[Okla.Dave]

What is the importance of the over travel screw?
I know what it does just never used one to know of its importance.

[Tok36]

The over-travel set screw, allows you to reduce the trigger travel after the SA break, there by shorting the reset (overall trigger travel before reset).

The allowable adjustment is different depending on the pistol you have installed it on. In other words some pistols do not have as much over-travel to begin with, while maintaining sear/hammer hook clearance. I have a CZ that benefited greatly and another that benefited very little.

Thus far i prefer the look and feel of the Old 85c trigger. Though i have not personally confirmed it, i believe that the added thickness of the Old 85c trigger is added to the front, there by moving your finger forward slightly. If this is correct, it marginally increases the reach over a New style 85c trigger.

[Okla.Dave]

If you were to remove the over travel set screw would that trouble you?
what would you rate the need for the set screw ?

[Tok36]

I would consider the adjustment screw "fine tuning". For a beginner like my self, not a big deal. For a experienced competitor i assume the the value is greater. Unless you are shooting fast allot, the shortness of the reset is less of a noticeable asset.

[Okla.Dave]

Thanks TOK36 for the in put, and the information on the added reach to the trigger and set screw.
I think I will get the old model, my reach to the trigger is ok for me.

This will give me the reason to install a lighter TRS. 

Thanks to all.

[emjei]

You can also consider de CZ97B trigger

[bigdave24]

I certainly wouldn't put one on a carry gun.  For competition some like them.  I have had malfunctions when the screw 'walked' (with loctite),  so I'm not a big fan of them.

[tdogg]

You can run the 85C trigger without the overtravel setscrew (I'm pretty sure Angus stated that is how he runs his to prevent the screw from causing a DNF).  In my opinion the real benefit for the original 85C trigger is the shape.  The current recurve trigger is too curved at the end and it is uncomfortable for my fat fingers.  The original 85C trigger is much flatter and in my opinion much more comfortable.  I have put them on three of my CZ's now and I still have the setscrews loctited in place.  I haven't had any issues yet...

Cheers,
Toby

[Towns]

Red or Blue loctite???  Assuming Red.

[gdawgs56]

Red or Blue loctite???  Assuming Red.

I use blue first for a few hundred rounds to make sure I know how far to screw it in, then I use Red if it's a self defense pistol. If it's just for range or competition I leave it with blue.

[1SOW]

Just a point on the set screw coming loose and preventing the hammer from falling.
"Angus Hobdell" said here he won't use the O.T. set screw at ALL,  because eventually it WILL come loose and cause problems at the worst possible times.  "MURPHY'S LAW".

It's happened with my son's pistol,  my pistol and two or three other shooters at some local matches over time.  ---just a consideration for you to consider if you see little value in the O.T. adjustment.

JMHO:  I DO use the old 85C trigger AND the adj. screw set to remove no more than half the OT for competition.  I wouldn't for a SD/HD dedicated pistol.