VOTE on the future of the SP-01

[TY44934]

HERE   is a link to the "IPSC Global Village" forum - the official world-wide board for IPSC. Right now, the IPSC General Assembly is considering a ban on the SP-01 in its intended Division or Class: Production. The link above takes you to a poll where you can vote after you register; you don't have to be a member or even a competitor of IPSC to register & vote. We want to vote : Yes - to keep them on the approved list.

The future of the SP-01 is on the line here. If IPSC bans the gun, I doubt that CZ will bother making any more of them.

To clarify the debate, some people (who shoot other brands) think that CZ has added too many improvements to the SP-01; specifically, it now has an accessory rail that goes to the end of the slide & it holds as many rounds as the Para Ord LDA 18 & some Glock 17 mags. People are scared that the SP-01 will take over because its too good. I would hate to see a good gun trashed out of unfounded, irrational fear. I think we all know how great CZs are and yet sales of other brands are strong; shooters will always have their personal bias.

As for the ban, some have foolishly claimed the SP01 will still be legal in other Divisions; that is sorta like taking the lastest car in Nascar & telling the team - "its banned in Nascar, but I am sure you could use it on a drag strip someplace". THe SP-01 is built to race in IPSC Production Division & that is where it belongs. Lets take a second, vote, and make sure it stays there.

Regards,

D.C. Johnson
www.shootersparadise.com

[faustulus]

Quote:that is sorta like taking the lastest car in Nascar & telling the team - "its banned in Nascar, but I am sure you could use it on a drag strip someplace".

Actually more like 'its banned in Nascar but you can use it in Formula 1"

But I get your meaning.

[briang2ad]

"The future of the SP-01 is on the line here. If IPSC bans the gun, I doubt that CZ will bother making any more of them. "

IF the overwhelming majority of gunowners were IPSC shooters, and shooting IPSC was the ONLY reason they owned guns, then this might be true.  As it is, this is not true.  How can you defend your conclusion that CZ will not produce the gun, if it is banned in a particular class of IPSC?

[Unregistered(d)]

Hey briang2ad,

Mr Johnson is fully capable of defending his thoughts if he chooses to do so. But please note that he did not reach any conclusion regarding continued manufacture of the SP01. He only expressed doubt of that fact, possibly based on the following.

It has been stated on public forums by a rep of CZ that, depending on the decisions of the IPSC General Assembly in August, certain modifications may have to be made to the SP01 to retain approval on the Production list.

If this occurs, the SP01 as it now exists, may possibly be discontinued and an IPSC approved variant may be produced in it's place.
 
Mr. Johnson is very knowledgable in the area of shooting sports and firearms marketing and he shares this view with many others in the shooting industry.

For more info on this subject visit: brianenos.com or the web site listed in Mr. Johnson's post above.  

[TY44934]

Thanks TxZ; I could not have said that any better. Regards,

D.C. Johnson
www.shootersparadise.com

[briang2ad]

DC Johnson said:

 "The future of the SP-01 is on the line here. If IPSC bans the gun, I doubt that CZ will bother making any more of them. "

Then TY44934 said:

"It has been stated on public forums by a rep of CZ that, depending on the decisions of the IPSC General Assembly in August, certain modifications may have to be made to the SP01 to retain approval on the Production list.

 If this occurs, the SP01 as it now exists, may possibly be discontinued and an IPSC approved variant may be produced in it's place."

Some seem to be leaping to large conclusions based on some "rep" from CZ (name?) who says that if the IPSC body does not decide a certain way, modifications MAY have to be made.  Your statement "if this occurs" is based on what?  Did the "CZ rep" say this, or are you drawing this conclusion from what he said.  Either way, it does not support a conclusion that the SP01 will not be produced.  

[faustulus]

Ok. you're right, Angus, TY and the others don't know what they are talking about.
BTW how are supplies of the pistol in your area?

[Unregistered(d)]

briang2ad:

I capitulate as well.

Your circular debating method and reading/comprehension skills are truly amazing.

[briang2ad]

TxZ:  nothing circular about it.  Too many ifs to support your conclusion.

[TY44934]

BrianG2ad - Your replies suggest you do not understand nor participate in the competitive sport for which the SP-01 was designed: the Production Division of IPSC & USPSA. It appears as if you lack the factual background to make an informed contribution to this dabate. For your convenience, I have researched the matter on the relevant forums & provide you with links regarding the debate:

From the IPSC Global Village:

ipsc.invisionzone.com/ind...topic=1192

ipsc.invisionzone.com/ind...topic=1189

ipsc.invisionzone.com/ind...wtopic=995

ipsc.invisionzone.com/ind...topic=1011

From this forum:

p201.ezboard.com/fczechpi...D=82.topic

And from the Brian Enos forum:

www.brianenos.com/forums/...opic=22138

www.brianenos.com/forums/...opic=22709

www.brianenos.com/forums/...opic=22257

www.brianenos.com/forums/...opic=22136

Please take advantage of these links and try to understand what we are discussing here. Once you have an understanding of the background to this matter, I doubt you will try to stand behind your previous arguments. Best regards,

D.C. Johnson
www.shootersparadise.com

[robertbank]

OK the gun is banned by IPSC.  Does it fit in SSP or ESP divisions of IDPA?

[Unregistered(d)]

Short answer. No.
Too heavy for SSP.
No long dust covers in ESP unless the gun is allowable in SSP.
Some of us are working on it though. (Rules interpretation)