Interest in possible Geissele trigger pack

[Manticore_Arms]

lol hearing people talk about trigger packs for this gun crack me up.

Why does it crack you up?

If we can make a pack that gets you 4 compliance parts and a better/lighter trigger than the 8-10 lb pull, what is not to like?

[GA Jack]

I'm all for anyone who makes a drop in trigger pack just to make it easy.

[Hairlesswookiee]

Id rather see someone make a new grip... steeper angle... most suitable for a CQB weapon...

This is what I'm ready for. While I agree that the trigger can get the intended job done, I would only be interested in a trigger if the cost was around the $100-150 range.

[Tommyid1]

i voted yes for a drop in pack. but honestly for what it is. really the only pack i would be interested in is a full auto trigger pack lol.  one for 922r stuff would be cool though. as long as its not over the top expensive.

[Garmanarnar]

I find the trigger to be suitable for the task the Scorpion is presented with. This is not 500+ yard target gun. The trigger pull does not inhibit reasonable accuracy at 25-50yd, so I personally have little interested in a trigger that would cost 50% of the guns value.

I disagree. Besides, why not get a better trigger? There's no downside.

[ShootersElement]

With the HBI springs and the Shooters Element Flat Trigger I'm at about 4.5 to 4.75 lbs for under $60. Personally I have a hard time justifying a $300 trigger that would do the same. This isn't a match gun, it isn't even a 300 yard gun, it's a sub gun that's effective out to 150 yards on man size targets pretty darn reliably. I've looked and drafted up versions of a trigger pack, replacement parts and various components, but it's costly and the issue is the tolerance that is in the CZ makes it more than just challenging. 

You want a better trigger, buy the HBI springs and a new trigger from me...problem solved and you have money left to buy ammo

[mdz0136]

As much as I love Geissele triggers I agree with SE. The springs and trigger for the price does just fine. If the Scorpion actually served a specific purpose like my 3G competition rifle does then I could see spending extra on a trigger.

[Independent George]

I have been looking at the parts that count for 922r, and I am starting to think Manticore may investigate doing a trigger pack- that would get 4 parts, and a muzzle device plus a stock would make 6 and reach the magic number.

Going to see if we might be able to lighten up the pull a bit and get 4 U.S. made parts to boot!  It is new territory for us, but seems like it might be a worthwhile goal if no one else wants to tackle it.

Sven
Manticore Arms

I can't SBR where I live, but that is exactly what I'd be looking for as soon as I move. I'd want to be 922 compliant without fussing with the mags - for piece of mind, I don't want to worry about grabbing the wrong mags by accident. The CZC barrel goes a long way, but that's a pretty pricey add-on.

[Manticore_Arms]

I already talked to Joe Plunkett at Geiselle about this project.  Due to their manufacturing methods the economics do not support Geiselle investing in the trigger design at this time.

Sven
Manticore Arms

[mursalot]

ROFLFH!
$300-$350 for a 4.5-5# trigger pack!
Like Shooters Element said, same thing can be accomplished with the HBI $8.95 trigger spring kit and an aftermarket trigger or fluff and buff.
I know this is a little dated, but this is a pretty good read. Predictions that the scorpion won't be popular and cz would lose interest in exporting this firearm to the USA.

Let me start by saying I do not work for Geissele or am I in any way affiliated with them.What I'm trying to find out is how much interest there is & may be we could get them to put something in production. I'm thinking an SSA style trigger 4.5-5 lb pull complete drop in pack. Pricing would more than likely  be similar to the Tavor pack $300-$350 range.

[OhHey1]

I agree with the pull weight comment as my Scopion's trigger pull is 3#-3.5# according to CZC (custom trigger and trigger job). But I'd still buy a Geissele if it were as good or better.

[Artist]

ROFLFH!
$300-$350 for a 4.5-5# trigger pack!
Like Shooters Element said, same thing can be accomplished with the HBI $8.95 trigger spring kit and an aftermarket trigger or fluff and buff.

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I've got a couple of Geissele AR-15 triggers (the SD-3G $260.00 and a SD-E $250.00) and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are 100% worth the price. And no you can't get the same thing with the HBI $8.95 trigger spring kit and an aftermarket trigger, sorry, not even close. If you haven't shot an AR-15 or an AR-10 with a Geissele installed you don't know what these little jewels of perfection are capable of and you don't know what you're missing (plus they are pretty much bomb proof, ask a Navy Seal if they would trade their Geissele for anything else).

[mursalot]

ROFLFH!
$300-$350 for a 4.5-5# trigger pack!
Like Shooters Element said, same thing can be accomplished with the HBI $8.95 trigger spring kit and an aftermarket trigger or fluff and buff.

I've got a couple of Geissele AR-15 triggers (the SD-3G $260.00 and a SD-E $250.00) and I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are 100% worth the price. And no you can't get the same thing with the HBI $8.95 trigger spring kit and an aftermarket trigger, sorry, not even close. If you haven't shot an AR-15 or an AR-10 with a Geissele installed you don't know what these little jewels of perfection are capable of and you don't know what you're missing (plus they are pretty much bomb proof, ask a Navy Seal if they would trade their Geissele for anything else).

Why would I ask a navy seal? You totally lost me with that comment. Why not ask an army ranger or a special forces force multiplier or a delta force operator or marine force recon? Everyone has their own preference. That's the main reason a delta force operative has the choice of what weapons to use.

I've used the aftermarket drop in trigger kits and I really don't care for them unless it were for completion shooting. Yeah, with some you can adjust pretravel and overtravel or ever adjust the pull weight. Some don't have the option for any adjustment. What it boils down to are smaller parts and tighter tolerances that don't bode well for field use and especially not for a blowback operated firearm where the trigger pack is exposed to copious amounts of, well "blowback".

Some things work well for some, but not so much for others. Everyone has their own opinion. So please don't play home school commando and say that because a navy seal might be using it, that it means it's the best of the best. If that were the case, then everyone out there who owns a Sig, needs to sell it now and pick up a glock "because the seals are doing it".

Off my soap box. I prefer the stock trigger with the HBI spring kit. Which just so happens to be a win-win for me since that saves me several hundred dollars and I enjoy this setup



Navy seals...wow

[OhHey1]

If that were the case, then everyone out there who owns a Sig, needs to sell it now and pick up a glock "because the seals are doing it".

Well Glock > sig so...

[mursalot]

If that were the case, then everyone out there who owns a Sig, needs to sell it now and pick up a glock "because the seals are doing it".

Well Glock > sig so...

Agreed. I have 3 with no intention of parting with them. I've also HAD 2 sigs before, never again