CGW upgrades: Diy or send it in for the Works?

[dbb1776]

I'm OK with plug and play parts, but if anything requires fitting I prefer a Pro.
I'm wanting the carry pro package, but was wondering what results I can expect if I just replace the parts myself?
Cz PO7 duty

[Baerman]

I'm debating this myself on my P-01 send it or do the work. 

[Googe1227]

If you are good with your hands then you can do this.  There are a lot of great tutorials in the Gunsmithing section.  The satisfaction of DIY is tremendous. 

I have done full CGW upgrades on a P09, 2075 and 85C with no fitting required plus all of the internal polishing. The guns are perfect IMO.

My two cents.  Good luck with whatever you decide.   

[oneoff]

There is no discernible difference "to me" between a pro package I have on a PCR that CGW did, and a CZ75B that I did using David's parts.  I say do it yourself!  He's really busy right now, so you'll avoid both expense "and" wait.  He's also "always" really helpful, and you get the benefit of getting to know your gun (if you don't already).

I've installed 4 of his kits, and the only one that wasn't plug-n-play was a sear on a Canik.  When I encountered the problem I called Dave, he told me what to do, and I was shooting 10 minutes later (& I believe that problem has been permanently addressed now).  I don't think you can go wrong, and if you decide you have, just ship the basket-case back to him and I'm sure he'll take care of you.

[dbb1776]

How long did it take the first time you installed the parts?

[Googe1227]

Depends on which pistol you're asking about. P09 is an Omega decocker standard. JoeL's videos are great and it took about 5 minutes to pull it all apart. Just pay attention to what you're doing and it will be fine. Have the videos handy when you are ready to reassemble.

The 2075 and the 85C are basically the same setup (except for no FP block on the 85C) and I was able to take them apart in about the same amount of time.

I would estimate that I spent about 1.5 hours on the internal polishing for the 2075 and the 85C; much less time on the P09 because of the omega trigger bar. Reassembly took approximately 30 minutes but I was going very slow.

So I would say in my limited experience about three hours total for each pistol.  But I didn't do it all in one sitting since I was doing it at night after work. 1st night break it down and do a little polishing; 2nd night I completed the polishing; night 3 break out the CGW goodies and put it all back together.

It really is a great way to get to know how these pistols function.

[copemech]

I'm OK with plug and play parts, but if anything requires fitting I prefer a Pro.
I'm wanting the carry pro package, but was wondering what results I can expect if I just replace the parts myself?
Cz PO7 duty

Only if you have tools and talent! The Omega is fairly simple, but if you have neither, best left to others.

Seems to me the big variable is the roller. Never know if you are going to need one or not till after the fitment of other parts. This all has to do with tolerance stacking.

[dbb1776]

I've got basic hand tools. Hammer, punch, just the basic skills. And I like the suggestion to sent in the basket case in the event of a catastrophe.

[andrew1220]

I sent my CZ75b to David and got the pro package and new sights installed. There's no way I would have attempted it myself. The price difference between me buying the parts and doing it myself vs having an expert do it was well worth it to me. Downside is the wait time but I was blown away with the trigger afterwards. 3.5# SA short reset and 7.5# DA super smooth.

[copemech]

I've got basic hand tools. Hammer, punch, just the basic skills. And I like the suggestion to sent in the basket case in the event of a catastrophe.

Go for it then. It is not that difficult. Watch the vids from Joe L.

To do one up properly, you need the CGW hammer. Changing out the strut is the biggest pain here. He may even sell you one already set up with a new strut, as he does on the 75 series. I have not specifically asked, but makes the swap a breeze at minimal cost. Otherwise you need the starter punch and a proper setup to do it.

[dbb1776]

Which sights Andrew?

[andrew1220]

Which sights Andrew?

Fiber optic front sight and the trapezoid rear sight. E-Z/D-9/40 is the part number. Under the CZ 75 sights page.

[Earl Keese]

I just finished installing the defensive carry package parts on my P-01. I would have sent it in except my wife is training with it tomorrow and there wasn't time. I'm very mechanically inclined and would compare the difficulty level to maybe assembling a small 4 stroke engine. Of the cost for either in-house upgrade, $130 is for labor, so that's the savings for diy. Well worth it to send it in. I did however, enjoy the process and now understand this platform much more thoroughly.
 The gun works exactly as promised by CGW. DA went from 11lbs to 7.5-8 and SA went from 5.5 to a crisp 3.25-3.5 - my trigger scale isn't digital. My trigger was decent to start with,never gritty but it is even better now. If Dave will sell you the hammer with strut pre-installed buy it. That part is not fun and was for me the worst. My next CZ will hopefully be a 97, and I plan to send it in or buy directly from CGW if they are in stock. 

[dbb1776]

Thanks Earl. $130 for a professional install is probably worth it. The wait won't be fun but I have others to shoot. I carry my PO7 so reliability is 1st.

[CZNate]

Dbb1776.... If you are one of those people that learn when you go... Go for it!   I'm not to sure about a p07 but I just got my first Cz (sp01 shadow) and it only took a couple of YouTube videos and some great post on this forum.  I had the thing torn apart and fully polished by the end of the week.  CGW parts with the easy CGW hammer pins and Cgw trigger pin made it easy.  Once you get through the staked pins and roll pins and replace them with the easy in and out pins it's a breeze. I would say fitting a hammer to a safety would be the hardest it gets. Again I'm not to familiar with your platform but I think cz's in general are real easy to work on and there is probably 2 or 3 threads you can search that give you step by step. Here's my results
 http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=72820

Good luck and let us know how it goes if you go that route. Like the other guys say it feels great with doing it yourself and also saving some cash in the process.  If it doesn't go well or you realize it's past your skill set you could always send it then.


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