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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« on: July 26, 2015, 01:02:39 PM »
Does anyone know if it is possible to put a cz 75 compact slide on a Rami frame? Why or why not, and what would be required to pull it off? Thanks in advance!
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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2015, 04:35:58 PM »
Yes...can  be done.
the back of the slide and frame do not line up  and need some blending.
depending on tolerances some other fitting may be needed.
mechanically on first run through it seemed to function fine.

You'll need a Rami lower and a compact upper.
So you may be into two pistols.

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2015, 05:11:47 PM »
Thanks Stuart! When you say blending... Is it best to remove material  from the frame or the slide or both? Do you have any pictures of the one you made? What were your thoughts when testing it? Would it really be that great for concealed carry since it would have the benefits of a shorter grip and longer sight radius? Thanks again for chiming in, you have some unique experience and insight with these guns and it's really appreciated!
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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2015, 05:43:41 PM »
Our guys our finishing up this build. I should have photos soon.
the frame is longer than the slide at the rear. so to make look nice needed to blend the frame to the slide.

At first glance it is pretty cool. Very small frame to conceal ( wish it could be thinner ) and a decent sight radius.

I will know more once the gunsmiths get the pistol finished up and I get a chance to see and handle it.

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2015, 09:17:40 PM »
Oh I understand now. I'm excited to see the photos and hear how it turns out. The gun I wish for the most is a CZ 75 single stack! I carry a sig p938 right now, and although mine has been reliable I fear it's fate will be like most other p938's. I would love if cz would finally jump on the band wagon. Thanks again for sharing the info!
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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 10:31:00 PM »
I'm working on a similar project, but have almost decided to go for a full-sized 75/85 slide.  I did find an SP01 slide for $450 and a Compact one for $225; both more than I had planned on spending.  I think my unicorn would be an 85 Combat slide, but that's just cosmetics.

Have you found a slide/RAMI combo you're thinking about putting together?

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2015, 11:57:11 PM »
No I haven't... I wanted to first see if the Rami frame would take larger 75 slides. I don't know if I would go bigger than  a compact slide.  I thought of a shadow slide since they are on cz custom, since I could get just the slide, but that'd be pretty large for concealed carry. Plus, I doubted the dust cover would fit with the Rami frame. Have your tried the full size slide to see if the dust cover would work or if there would be a gap?

Does anyone know if I had slots machined into the slide to reduce weight (like what is done for porting) if that would compromise the slide? If not, any ideas on how much could be taken off safely?
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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2015, 06:57:22 AM »
Yes...can  be done.
the back of the slide and frame do not line up  and need some blending.
depending on tolerances some other fitting may be needed.
mechanically on first run through it seemed to function fine.

You'll need a Rami lower and a compact upper.
So you may be into two pistols.

Stuart, when I tried my PCR slide on my RAMI BD frame the slide would not lock back on an empty magazine.  Here is a picture of the gun.


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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2015, 07:42:32 AM »
Someone did the opposite as well: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=69370.0

Looking forward to the end result Stuart!

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2015, 01:43:53 PM »
No I haven't... I wanted to first see if the Rami frame would take larger 75 slides. I don't know if I would go bigger than  a compact slide.  I thought of a shadow slide since they are on cz custom, since I could get just the slide, but that'd be pretty large for concealed carry. Plus, I doubted the dust cover would fit with the Rami frame. Have your tried the full size slide to see if the dust cover would work or if there would be a gap?

Does anyone know if I had slots machined into the slide to reduce weight (like what is done for porting) if that would compromise the slide? If not, any ideas on how much could be taken off safely?

The full-sized slides will work.  Look at my picture request thread.  I, too, was wondering how much could be milled off for weight without compromising strength.  My guess is a profile like the RAMI-P milled into a 75/85 slide would go a long way.  Ports or slots would be good too.  That's a lot of time and $, though, and my budget just doesn't allow for that.  The RAMI frame is the part that matters to me for CCW, not so much the slide length.

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2015, 01:58:22 AM »
It is too bad they don't sell slides individually (outside of the few on cz custom). If my TS slide would fit I could just make a carry pistol with the ultimate sight radius... I'll probably just get a 75 compact next (unforeseen future) and carry that every so often. If anyone ends up with a hybrid pistol with the Rami frame and a larger slide please share a range report and thoughts on functionality.
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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2015, 04:11:53 AM »
Someone did the opposite as well: http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=69370.0

Looking forward to the end result Stuart!

I was trying so hard to forget about the XCR.. Now that I'm looking at the pics again I really wanna build one!  O0

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2015, 09:10:33 AM »
I'll trade my Rami upper for your PCR upper toward that build!

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2015, 09:12:43 AM »
It is too bad they don't sell slides individually (outside of the few on cz custom). If my TS slide would fit I could just make a carry pistol with the ultimate sight radius... I'll probably just get a 75 compact next (unforeseen future) and carry that every so often. If anyone ends up with a hybrid pistol with the Rami frame and a larger slide please share a range report and thoughts on functionality.

That's my goal.  I'd sure like to see a TS slide on a RAMI frame, just for fun!  Anybody able to snap a pic?

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Re: Mating a Rami frame and 75 compact slide?
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2015, 11:56:45 AM »
It is too bad they don't sell slides individually (outside of the few on cz custom). If my TS slide would fit I could just make a carry pistol with the ultimate sight radius... I'll probably just get a 75 compact next (unforeseen future) and carry that every so often. If anyone ends up with a hybrid pistol with the Rami frame and a larger slide please share a range report and thoughts on functionality.

That's my goal.  I'd sure like to see a TS slide on a RAMI frame, just for fun!  Anybody able to snap a pic?

Would look incomplete without an adjustable stock and front grip.

Jokes aside, the TS slide meeds a lot of fitting to slide into any other standard CZ75 variant, including the Rami. It is quite wide. You might not get that picture you want to see.
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