BREN 806?

[armoredman]

Oh, my....
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/12/cz-announces-cz-806-bren-2-improved-modular-assault-rifle/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss

[Psyop96]

Looking better! Non-reciprocating op handle (no more support hand thumb "ouch"); integrated mag well and lower receiver for different magazine types (the modular 805 mag well, as a separate piece, looked a bit weak in the way it attached to the lower receiver); improved left side bolt catch/release design with a second one located in the trigger guard; ambi mag release; cleaner/streamlined stock....that's the primary ergonomic changes that I gathered from the Czenglish. [emoji1] See anything else?

[hking]

Looks like they improved everything that was keeping me from a 805. Non reciprocating charging handle and better bolt catch/release are big. I wonder if that is why the US got a bunch of 805 Brens? Dumping existing stock so they can give the 806 to the CZ mil.

[armoredman]

I'd hate to think that, but it's plausible, plus the fact that all 805 pistols sold in the US are going to be collectors items someday, low production.
I am waiting for the 806 pistol and carbine.

[Quick Shot xMLx]

Possible price drop on the 805s that have already been made?

[armoredman]

We do have to remember there is no guarantee that the 806 will be approved for import. Just because it's related to the 805 doesn't grant a family exemption.
I think we'll continue to see the 805 for a while yet, and then the 806, not sure when.

[armoredman]

I did get some more info - it appears the press release may have been premature. Don't expect the 806 to hit any civilian market for a few years. 
However, the 805 is still a rockin' firearm that we can probably expect to see for a few more years.

[dirtyharriet]

I say get an 805 while you can. IF they import the 806's... those of us who choose to can upgrade. I know I am not going to take a chance and hope to pick up my 805 within the next few weeks.

[armoredman]

I agree - still saving up.

[RSR]

IMO, they still should've just refined the VZ58...   

If I'm reading it right, it will support both 7.62x39 and 5.56:

Bren 2 rifles family were announced at the DSEI arms fair in London (DSEI 2015: CZ Bren announced carbine 2, 2015-09-18). This structure formed on the basis of export varieties of CZ 807, which competed in the Indian weapon trials, canceled the program MCAR. Weapon referred to as the CZ 806 is adapted for ammunition 5.56 mm x 7.62 mm and 45 x 39, while maintaining the same drain chamber. The exchange will only be subject barrel, the castle and the magazine. In a variation of 5.56 mm would be a standard magazine M16, when the gun is supplied with the cartridge Russian model will be used for identical dimensions of the upper part of the hull.

For carbine's I prefer 7.62x39 and for rifles I prefer 5.56...  So this is awesome.

The grip angle also changed which both the Bren and EVO both desperately need...  Better yet, incorporate interchangeable grips via AK or AR patterns...

I also don't know why they dropped the 2 round burst...  It's the only burst that's scientifically sound and should improve hit ratios...  Seems shortsighted for a military weapon...

Unless CZUSA or others either opt to build rifles here, or to modify sporter versions here back to original configuration (still manufacture, just smaller factory), we will not see rifles in the USA only pistols under the current firearms legal regime... 
So you all are correct about Bren pistols being collectors items...   Especially considering that the Galil ACE, Bren, SCAR, ARX100, HK416 (effectively a piston AR15), and perhaps the Polish MSBS are pretty much the only legitimate contenders in any modern military weapon trials these days...  (I consider the direct impingement AR15 to be previous generation technology so am not including...)  Of the polymers, I probably lean towards the Beretta and the metals the Galil, but the latest changes of the Bren might win me over (the ugliness of the galil ace compared to the original would play no small part in swaying...).
SCAR is here, believe the HK is but haven't seen in person (MR556a1), Polish is supposedly coming, Galil is here in pistol, Beretta is here, and Bren is here in pistol.

[z00mie]

I don't plan on taking a chance with elections rolling around waiting on a "better" iteration of the 800 series. Truthfully, a new interchangeable magwell with an updated bolt hold open/release will be something they can fix without building a complete new rifle. The non-reciprocating bolt handle I suspect will require too much to just be an in-field upgrade. it is cool they're continuing to mature the platform though!

[everydefense]

I know I definitely won't be able to afford another rifle for years, anyway, so I'm eagerly awaiting the 806... when it (hopefully) eventually is approved for import, I might have enough pennies saved up by then

Also, very glad to see that the 806 is also multi-caliber like the 805. Hopefully the (future) import options will include the 7.62x39 version so my vz. 58 can have a buddy 

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/03/28/more-details-corrections-to-pakistani-trials-rifles/

[BrenToo]

I know I definitely won't be able to afford another rifle for years, anyway, so I'm eagerly awaiting the 806... when it (hopefully) eventually is approved for import, I might have enough pennies saved up by then
Also, very glad to see that the 806 is also multi-caliber like the 805. Hopefully the (future) import options will include the 7.62x39 version so my vz. 58 can have a buddy 

We're in the same boat.
We shall see what effect this has: http://www.shotshow.org

[armoredman]

I was very privileged to go to SHOT 2015, never had so much fun ever. Someday, someday I'm going back!

I doubt this SHOT will have it, but with the massive sea change in Congress and Administration across the land, SHOT 2018 might, just might, (this is ME talking, no rumors or anything else, my wishful thinking), might have a BREN 2 Carbine for us lowly civilian types. What would be even better would be Scorpion EVO S1 and BREN 805/2 Carbine SBRs showing off due to the repeal of SBR/SBS from NFA '34... One thing I would expect for SHOT 2018 would be factory built suppressor models as I am fairly certain the Hearing Protection Act will slide right on through this year.

[CPTKILLER]

If it happens, my Sig 556XI will be sold and I'll get a BREN 806.