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Offline BisonWorld

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And now... Something different
« on: December 10, 2015, 12:42:48 PM »
The start of something beautiful




And now to turn that old barrel stub into a barrel extension :)



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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2015, 12:43:34 PM »
Place holder for more to come

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2015, 11:12:26 PM »
A BREN in 6.5 Grendel...be still, my beating heart.... :o 8) ;D

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2016, 04:22:09 PM »
Any updates/pics?

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2016, 04:27:45 PM »
I've gotten slightly distracted with Christmas vacation and beginning an extended rail system. I'll probably be taking a personal day off sometime soon to finish the barrel.

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2016, 11:12:53 PM »
Awesome. 8)

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 08:03:44 PM »
sooooo. long overdo for an update, finally got around to taking a personal day and working on this.

so first, to open up the bolt face.

that's better

 
the 27 inch barrel blank seemed excessive so cut it down to 18.5 inches. I will finish the barrel at 18 inches. the excess barrel will make good stock for muzzle brakes or maybe just a big paper weight


cutting the shank


threaded shank and installed barrel extension


chambered using a PTG 6.5 grendel II (parallel throat) reamer.


and that is about all I got done today, spent way too much time messing with my other side project. something about too many eggs and not enough baskets or what not.  ;D

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 01:08:21 AM »
Awesome, please keep us updated! Looking great!

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 09:14:03 AM »
That looks great! I wouldn't mind one in 300 Black out  ;)

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 09:17:14 PM »
alright, it is long overdue for me to finish this project up, so here we go

used a center drill to cut a cone for the live center to ride in while contouring


man that is a fat barrel blank, here it is after the first pass


I generally take off .050 a pass on this lathe while contouring making sure to constantly spray on more cutting/cooling fluid mixture through out.  the barrel stays cool to the touch throughout the process.  here is the barrel after 6 passes


you may have noticed that little disk left over against the chuck, I'll get to that in a second.  I've also added in a relief cut next to this disk


the rest of the barrel has been taken down to .775 diameter at this point save for the larger area you see here, this is where the barrel sleeve/trunion will be pressed on.  I will use a different cutting tool and be a little more precise cutting this area as it's diameter is a very critical dimension


I take a brake from contouring the rest of the barrel now and cut the critical dimension mentioned in the last picture.  after this I will decrease the amount of barrel sticking out from the chuck because, as the barrel gets thinner, it and my cutting set up become less ridged, which would causing increased tool chatter and less cutting accuracy while contouring the rest of the barrel if I left it be.  decreasing the amount of barrel sticking out helps to replace the rigidity lost from the barrel thickness decreasing. unfortunately, I forgot to take a picture when finishing the contouring on the front portion of the barrel.

here is a picture of the contouring from where the gas block will sit, this is also a very critical dimension.






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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 09:50:26 PM »
the barrel is now contoured, but there is still much to do


remember that little disk from earlier, well allow me to explain, on a regular bren barrel, the barrel and area with the locking lugs is all one piece, it is not threaded on, because of this, on a factory barrel no shoulder is needed for the locking lugs area (what I will call the barrel extension) to index on and thread up against. So on mine (given that I used a barrel extension that I made from an old bren barrel and this would neeed to be threaded on) I had to make a shoulder, but as the barrel sleeve/trunion butts right up against the extension and the barrel tenon diamter is larger than the diameter under the trunion, no shoulder would normally be available, so I cutt the barrel sleeve/trunion back .060 and left a shoulder built into the barrel itself. 


picture of the cut barrel sleeve


the factory barrel is quite thin and so of course, so is the internal diameter of the gas block, so I opened it up.  the portion of my barrel infront of the gas block is .700 and the diameter of the barrel under the gas block is .715. at this point the walls of the gas block will become very thin, I'm going to try a .725 profile barrel on my next one, but that may be iffy.


now that the barrel is contoured and the barrel sleeve and gas block are both ready to go on, let's first take care of the dangerous end of the barrel, I cut a 5/8 X 24 tenon for a muzzle break a friend gave me awhile back, I think it's made my ptg. All I know for sure is that it has about the shortest tenon I have ever seen on a 5/8 X 24 brake, with a max tenon length of only like .370.  So I cut the tenon at .360 and hope it indexes close once threaded, luckily it did and I only needed to remove .002 extra to get it on in the correct orientation.



alright, after finishing that and crowning the barrel, it was time to assemble.  putting on the gas block and barrel sleeve requires a 20 ton press and a good eye.  I think it came out well and the alignment is just about perfect, (there is about a degree or two flexibility on line up for it to still function fine, this one was bleep close to right on the money)


and we are assembled and ready to go, getting gas port sizes worked up for the load I will be shooting will take a little while as I do load development and settle on what I want, but other than that it is good to go.

So of course I through it in my gun and test fired just to double check my work, and good news, nothing blew up this time  :D


and that is all that I have for you guys today, hope you have enjoyed so far, as more projects develop or modifications are made I will continue to post them in this thread. Still a few more barrel and configurations I want to try with this gun and it has been quite a bit of fun.  If I can remember I will also post my single stage trigger modification which takes the factory bren trigger down to around 2-2.5 lbs without changing any spring weights.

« Last Edit: March 11, 2016, 10:24:52 PM by BisonWorld »

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 10:26:34 PM »
BisonWorld -- you are talented.    About the extent of my knowledge is "field-stripping" !!!!!

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2016, 12:10:01 AM »
Jealous doesn't BEGIN to cover it!  8) 8) 8) That is VERY cool work, sir - gonna get the barrel coated the same color as the rifle?
Some shooting video with a regular BREN for contrast would be awesome!

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2016, 12:01:33 PM »
I'll finishing up the polish work on they front section of the barrel (I had just begun which is why it looks a bit smudged in the photo) then will hopefully be sending it off to be dimpled, after that, I don't know, been thinking making this one a little colorful, we'll just have to wait and find out.

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Re: And now... Something different
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2016, 01:40:37 PM »
Waitaminnit...
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nothing blew up this time...

Whaddya mean, THIS time... :o 8)