I was, pleasantly, surprised by their accuracy with the stock sights and triggers. One of the stock triggers was much better than the other two, however the reset seemed the same on all 3. Offhand @ 25 yards on a man sized zombie target, I had a 2.5x2.5 in. hole with one lonely shot about 2 in. away. Not going to win any first place ribbons, but very combat effective. Groupings improved, marginally, with the HBI triggers and springs. These are currently everyone's favorite to shoot. The AK style safety selector is the ticket!