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Offline Czindalkas

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General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« on: December 24, 2015, 10:48:43 AM »
Hello,

Looking for suggestions about breaking in a new CZ 75D PCR. Should it be disassembled before using? Any recommendations on breakin grains. I used 146 on my 1911 9mm. Thanks

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2015, 10:54:40 AM »
Welcome to the forum. A good cleaning and relube is recommended. That includes the magazines. As far as grains, whatever your personal preference is. If you have any issues try different ammo and go from there.
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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2015, 11:28:32 AM »
As said, give it a good cleaning and lightly lube the rails.  My CZ's like 124 grain ammo.

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2015, 11:33:27 AM »
Thank you both. I have a box of Sellier and Bellot made in CZ, 124 grain. The certificate in the gun box said test shots were done with that brand. It did not specify grain. My 1911 9mm, does fine with 115-147. I assume the CZ will also do fine with that range. Happy Holidays!

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2015, 11:44:41 AM »
I have never shot any 147's, but have shot plenty of 115's and 124's.

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2015, 11:50:09 AM »
regarding the 147's. I had someone very familiar with my 1911 9mm recommend them strongly for breaking in period. Doubt i will buy anymore. Will be trying the Sellier and Bellot's today. After all they are made in CZ land.

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2015, 08:57:23 AM »
Make sure your S&B is brass case, not steel with brass coating. 

As far as weight of bullet, this should have absolutely no affect on breaking in your pistol.  I don't know that a PCR really needs a break in period.

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 01:32:14 PM »
I like to practice most matching the same weight used for carry, 147gr std pressure.  Best penetration into the bad guy.  That being said, I like to test the boundaries,  to se what happens.  Do the cases eject nearly the same?  Will a light load hiccup from intentional limp wristing?  Will it feed hollow points and the flat nose Rem MC FMJs reliably?  What shoots the tightest groups (124 Nato for my 75B Matte).  Nothing helps one to be confident in a firearm than being able to reliably feed and ignite a variety of ammo in particular the type you'll use for SD!

Federal AL case 115 gr. Is the only round that has presented any failure so far for the Matte.  I dont worry about it since my SD round is on the end ofthe spectrum.  If I carried 115gr SD rounds, Id likely consider changing out the recoil spring and test some more.

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Re: General Breakin question regarding new CZ 75D Compact PCR
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2015, 04:38:39 PM »
I believe the CZ 75 series were originally designed for the 115gr rd.  Which was still a standard Euro military rd in 1975.  The CZ factory still tests their 9mm pistol line with S&B 115gr rds.  The 124gr NATO was developed after the US adapted the 9mm as their standard sidearm.  The Czech's were still part of the Soviet Block at this time.  Undoubtedly the 124gr NATO will work fine in this CZ 75 series of pistols.  The 147gr is the subsonic rd for the suppressed 9mm sidearm.. 

I find that the 115gr and 124gr rds works very well in my Sigs and CZs and are accurate enough for a human target at 25m.  The 124gr rd will be a little more snappy than a 115gr.   However, in the event that you would ever have to use it.  I doubt if you would ever notice the difference.  There is also a difference in the US civilian 115gr vs Euro 115gr ammo.   The Euro and military will be a little hotter than 115gr US domestic ammo and be closer to the +P.   The same will go for the 124gr rd.   

I found that in the 60's,70's, and early 80's that certain US manufacturers of 9mm ammo were not hot enough to work the action on my German pistols 7.65mm, 9mmK, and 9mm parabelum.  So I started hand loading.  When I couldn't find Euro or certain US manufacturers. I fired a lot German, polish and Czech WWII surplus in the 60's.  The problem they had the corrosive Berdan primers and required you to thoroughly clean your weapon after firing.

Unless you shoot competition the standard factory 115gr or 124gr rd will be fine or a 12"x18" target.  95% of the time you will only have time to just point and shoot.   For competition hand loading is your best bet for real accuracy.  You can find which powder, primer, and bullet that works best, at which distance, for your particular weapon.   The factories do not weight and match each bullet and powder maybe a 10th of a grain or more off.  They just don't have the time to do this.   If they did you might then could be paying $5 a round of more.