New Rami Jamming

[Starlet4ag]

I had these problems with my Rami bd also. After searching the net i found out using kimber springs made for a compact 45 would fix the problem. Here is the model number?18lb Wolff for Kimber Ultra Carry part#51818?. These fixed the problem in my gun. If anyone is having similar issues i would try this first. I was starting to doubt the rami but now its been reliable and accurate so i have no complaints.

[Starlet4ag]

I also practice with freedom 115g get the kimber springs and you should be good to go.

[bmrshoot]

Welcome bmrshoot.
    Your correct that shooting form did get overlooked. Roughly 8 out of 10 times, the issue with a new CZ (especially a Rami) seems to come down to cleaning and lubing. So speaking for my self, I've become complacent in concentrating on only that issue first.

Thanks for the welcome. I just got my RAMI yesterday but have had my Accu Shadow for over a year now. I know in the Shadow I use an undersize die just to ensure no hang ups but it cycles factory loads just fine. I haven't shot the RAMI yet. I just know that customers are always bringing me G42s, G19s, PPKs and other smaller 9mm/380s complaining of feeding and stove pipe issues. I have them sign up for my club presidents class and usually that fixes the problem without any mods to the gun. Figured it was worth a shot. I'm going to take everyone's advice and make sure I clean the RAMI out really good before I take it out since it's a factory gun. I didn't have to worry about the Shadow because Angus did his magic on it and the customer I sold it to had it for a month before I bought it back so he had about 1200 rounds through it already. It was well broken in.

[cntrydawwwg]

Hmmm.   I just ordered a RAMI and use Freedommunitons 115gr almost esxclusively for practice ammo.  I hope there isn't a problem.  It cycles fine in my CZ75 and Shield.

   You probably won't have an issue. I've shot some FM 124gr that fed just fine.

[cntrydawwwg]

FWIW guys, I've been lucky I guess. Probably 500-700 rounds thru my BD and zero issues that had anything to do with the pistol.
    Once was when I didn't have my CGW disco fit quite right, and once with some ammo that was too long  (all my fault, not the Rami's)
    Heck, I still have the original outer recoil spring in, and some have had to replace at 500 rounds. ( since it's my carry, I do have a new one in other than range. Better safe than sorry[emoji6])
    I'm far from teaching anyone, I just followed the advice I've found on here.

[TheLunk]

I picked up a new RAMI decocker in 9mm about six or seven weeks ago. From the beginning, I'd been having anywhere from zero to three failures per box of ammo, where the slide would not go into battery, by approximately a half-inch or so. Most of the time the tap from a failure drill would be enough to pop the slide forward into full battery. I went through a lot of the suggestions in this and other jamming threads: full cleaning, different mags, exercising the extractor spring, polishing some of the friction areas, running it dry, running it wet, et cetera. Nothing seemed to fully cure it. Last week I went ahead and ordered the 18# Wolff springs. With a bit of cursing and some bruised thumbs I managed to get them installed properly (note bene: I'd suggest grabbing a helper for another set of hands when trying to get the retaining plate off and on). Since then I've run about 150 rounds through it, without a failure of any kind.

I picked up the RAMI with the intention of it being my carry gun, but I haven't felt comfortable with the number of failures I've been experiencing. I'm tentatively hopeful that the 18# springs have gotten me sorted out, tho. I have a lesson scheduled this Thursday so I should be putting another 150-200 rounds through it. I'll report back then.

[Kolholznik]

I picked up a new RAMI decocker in 9mm about six or seven weeks ago. From the beginning, I'd been having anywhere from zero to three failures per box of ammo, where the slide would not go into battery, by approximately a half-inch or so. Most of the time the tap from a failure drill would be enough to pop the slide forward into full battery. I went through a lot of the suggestions in this and other jamming threads: full cleaning, different mags, exercising the extractor spring, polishing some of the friction areas, running it dry, running it wet, et cetera. Nothing seemed to fully cure it. Last week I went ahead and ordered the 18# Wolff springs. With a bit of cursing and some bruised thumbs I managed to get them installed properly (note bene: I'd suggest grabbing a helper for another set of hands when trying to get the retaining plate off and on). Since then I've run about 150 rounds through it, without a failure of any kind.

I picked up the RAMI with the intention of it being my carry gun, but I haven't felt comfortable with the number of failures I've been experiencing. I'm tentatively hopeful that the 18# springs have gotten me sorted out, tho. I have a lesson scheduled this Thursday so I should be putting another 150-200 rounds through it. I'll report back then.

What brand of ammo are you shooting?  The reason I ask is that there seems to be a lot of poorly manufactured stuff being sold cheap these days - you couldn't give me Winchester White Box, Perfecta, Tul, etc.  I'd rather pay a dollar or two more for something I know is reliable than risk FTE/FTB every 10 shots.  I recently purchased some .45 ACP WWB and the bullets were seated so loosely in the cases you could move them with your finger.

[cntrydawwwg]

I picked up a new RAMI decocker in 9mm about six or seven weeks ago.

    Welcome to the forum.
  Sorry to hear about the issues. Ammo aside, I think I'd give CZ USA a call. If after everything you've tried and still couldn't get it running properly I'd send it back and see if they find anything.

[TheLunk]

What brand of ammo are you shooting?  The reason I ask is that there seems to be a lot of poorly manufactured stuff being sold cheap these days - you couldn't give me Winchester White Box, Perfecta, Tul, etc.  I'd rather pay a dollar or two more for something I know is reliable than risk FTE/FTB every 10 shots.  I recently purchased some .45 ACP WWB and the bullets were seated so loosely in the cases you could move them with your finger.

My indoor range requires you to run only what you purchase from them, so I've been limited in what I could try out there. Was a few of Fiocchi 115 varieties, and Blazer brass cased 115. The ammo wasn't particularly bad, as I've run a ton of it through both my full size 75, and a Glock 43 without issue.

[TheLunk]

I'm tentatively hopeful that the 18# springs have gotten me sorted out, tho. I have a lesson scheduled this Thursday so I should be putting another 150-200 rounds through it. I'll report back then.

Had a lesson yesterday, and ran another 150+ rounds through without a hiccup. So I'm sitting at 300+ rounds with zero failures. I've intentionally left the gun dirty through all those rounds, as well. I'm going to try and run it without cleaning until I either get a failure, or hit 500 rounds. I figure if we make it there I can start feeling comfortable with the reliability.

[Obiwan]

Good luck getting a failure.   My RAMI has about 400-500 rounds through now, mostly Fiocchi 135g FMJ (bulk), some Fiocchi 147g JHP, and Hornady Critical Defense (135g JHP, my defensive load). I may have also have run some S&B and American Eagle (first time on the range, wanted to try different ammo, but had two new guns and lost focus). Had not had a single failure other than the over-travel screw of the 86c trigger walking out after about 200 rounds and preventing firing (it's loc-tighted now). In fact, I don't recall any failure at all with the 75, RAMI, PCR or Scorpion. Oh, I take that back, there was ONE primer that didn't fire even after second and third strike.

If the over-travel screw stays put next time at the range, I certainly trust my life to the RAMI. (If the screw walks again, I'll either leave it, since it only happens after 200 rounds, and I don't expect to shoot that much in a self-defense situation, or it gets removed).

[TheLunk]

I'm tentatively hopeful that the 18# springs have gotten me sorted out, tho. I have a lesson scheduled this Thursday so I should be putting another 150-200 rounds through it. I'll report back then.

Had a lesson yesterday, and ran another 150+ rounds through without a hiccup. So I'm sitting at 300+ rounds with zero failures. I've intentionally left the gun dirty through all those rounds, as well. I'm going to try and run it without cleaning until I either get a failure, or hit 500 rounds. I figure if we make it there I can start feeling comfortable with the reliability.

Just an update: I hit 500 rounds at the range today, since replacing the stock recoil springs with the Wolff #18 set. No failures of any kind since putting them in. That's with zero cleaning. Not even a wipedown. And maybe its just confirmation bias, but I really feel like I'm making better followup shots with the stiffer springs in place.

I'm just now starting to feel like the RAMI might be the mini-75 that I want it to be

[Obiwan]

Glad to hear it went well! I think the follow-up shots make sense. The stiffer spring tames more of the slide recoiling, with less impact at the end of the slide travel, resulting in less muzzle rise.

That's why I don't understand why folks immediately put weaker springs in their guns. Yeah, it's easier to rack, but the slide is tamed less, resulting in more slide impact, more slide stop pin abuse, more muzzle climb. The previous owner of my PCR had installed a SS guide rod and weaker recoil spring. Was easy to rack, sure. But I immediately put the plastic guide rod back in (so the SS one doesn't damage the alu frame) and stock recoil spring. Harder to rack, sure. But it's a pleasure to shoot. I'm more accurate with the PCR over the RAMI or full-size 75, likely just how it fits my hand.

Anyway, glad your RAMI is running well! And yes, she's surprisingly accurate for a small pistol!   

* Obiwan removes RAMI from holster, gives her a kiss, and reholsters her.

[9x19]

My first RAMI jammed at least once each magazine. Before I ran across this thread, I had tried all of the cures that are mentioned here to no avail. I sold it. After finding the thread and seeing what Schmeky has done to make sure the ones he sells don't jam, I bought another one from him, plus a P-01. Both pistols are having the pro package installed along with F/O front sights and adjustable rears. He is going to work his magic on the breech face and the firing pin exit hole, on the RAMI. I called last week and was told my pistols would be on the worktable this week. CZ's are amazing pistols! I want this one to work.

[kkborre]

After about 800 rounds through my Rami BD I started getting regular jams.  The slide doesn't quite complete its cycle, by maybe a half inch or so.  A tap to the back of it and it was ready to fire.  I knew cleaning wasn't the issue.  Thought it was either a weak wrist or the spring issue discussed here.  I ordered the 18# springs.  Two of us working on it could not get the retaining plate off, no matter what we tried.  I had specfic directions from this site and it wouldn't budge.  So I just replaced the larger spring and headed for the range.  Problem solved!  200 rounds without a single hang up, right or left handed.  So happy I found the answer on this forum.  Thanks everyone!