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Offline mainmech48

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« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2003, 09:35:48 PM »
CeeZee Man: Wish that I'd heard from you sooner, as I just bought a blued one from a fellow at Gunbroker.com. I'm still interested in one with the starvel finish, though. What're you wanting for it?
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« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2003, 05:08:53 PM »
You said Firestar in Starvel.  

It is a Firestar *Plus*, isn't it.  

(I assume so, as the single-stacks didn't come with "hi caps.")

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2003, 02:03:24 PM »
If still interested the price is $350.00 plus shipping.  Comes with 2 extra hi-cap mags.
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Offline CeeZeeMan

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2003, 02:05:24 PM »
Yes, it's the "Plus" model.  Comes with 2 extra hi-cap mags.
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Offline Radom

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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2003, 02:45:16 PM »
The short answer that I usually give is that the PM is yet another PP/PPK derived blowback, while the CZ is more or less a unique design (as so many people pointed out above).  

The other 9x18mm pistols that I have seen (FEG and Radom) are all PP/PPK derived as well.
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Offline CanuckZ

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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2003, 06:52:07 AM »
For this small gun role, I have a Star Firestar M40 in .40S&W.  I love it to bits.  7+1 to start with, and 8 and 10 shot mag followups.  Look for this one, folks.
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2003, 03:42:58 PM »
Yeah, well...  I had one of the Star .40s (the model you mentiond) in nickel,  for a couple of years.

Great gun.  Wonderful trigger.  Very accurate.

But the darned thing weighed more than my mother-in-law!

(The joke at the range, when I shot it there, was that if the gun ever malfunctioned, I could drop it on the bad-guy's foot, and he'd be out of action for a week.)

I always felt it was too heavy for practical concealed carry.

Now, on the other hand, the Star Firestar PLUS (alloy frame, double stack) in .40 is worth a second look.  I've only seen one, but I carry a Star Firestar Plus in 9mm -- but its soon to be replaced by my Compact 75B.
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Offline CanuckZ

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« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2003, 07:03:21 AM »
My Star M40 is too heavy.  My CZ70 is too light.  But my Tanfoglio TZ-75 Compact is just right.

Goldi-Z
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