Author Topic: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series  (Read 11455 times)

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Offline Freedom_Man

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Well, hello, I'm new to the forum. I just bought my first CZ pistol, a P-09 Suppressor Ready 9mm in Urban Grey. I'm really happy with the fit and finish, the night sights, feel of the weapon, slide and trigger. However, the gun that I received is not even operable. First thing I noticed was that the two interchangeable backstraps were missing. Ok, I thought, this is easily replaced under warranty. Yesterday I took it to the range and when I pulled the trigger, nothing happened. I thought it might have been a light primer strike or a a FTF but when I ejected the round, there wasn't even a mark on the primer. Upon further inspection, the firing pin wasn't protruding from the slide at all. I took the slide apart and removed the FP to find out that it's about half the length it should be. This is unacceptable from CZ to ship a non-functional fireaarm with broken components. Has anyone else had a similar experience with their firing pin? I have never dry fired the weapon and the first time the hammer was dropped, a round was chambered. How has your experience with CZ customer service been with this type of issue?


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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 04:25:58 PM »
CZ customer service is great to deal with. Call them. By the way where did you find that gun. Didn't think those were out yet. How about some pics of it???

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 04:33:41 PM »
+1 for CZ customer service. Sorry to hear about your issue but they will no doubt get you squared away.

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That's a bummer! My experience with CZ customer service for needing a sear replacement on a rifle a couple years ago was very good and relatively painless other than having to take the rifle to the FedEx office with the prepaid label. They will take good care of you. If CZ UB wasn't being sloppy with the QC, then that opens up possibilities about the chain of custody to the final consumer [emoji30]. Keep us informed...and photos please.

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Some of the first parts I replace on new CZs are the springs and firing pin. This is after I broke three TRS and two FP over the past three years. All of them OEM parts. I wised up and replaced them all with improved ones from CGW and CZC.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2016, 05:29:13 PM »
CZ customer service is great to deal with. Call them. By the way where did you find that gun. Didn't think those were out yet. How about some pics of it???
They are out.. it seems to me like they were out for a limited run and I picked up the last one because I haven't found any more since I found that one through wikiarms. It was towards the end of the list with the higher priced items I believe I paid 570 for it. I went ahead and ordered a new FP from Cajun hopefully it holds up. Here are some pics




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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2016, 05:30:12 PM »
If you run a search for urban grey p-09 on slickguns, it shows 2 ads posted 1 month ago that are both out of stock. No retailers have them anymore.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2016, 05:44:58 PM »
You didn't open the gun and check it when you received it for transfer at your FFL? When I buy a gun from a web dealer, I open the sealed factory box and inspect the weapon before completing the transfer. At that point, you don't have to accept it if something's wrong. Some local dealers open and handle customer guns, I've seen one pass them around to his buddies that were hanging out. I would never do business with a store like that.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2016, 05:47:45 PM »
Don't they test fire these at the factory?
Frankly my dear, I don't give a bleep

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2016, 05:47:57 PM »
You didn't open the gun and check it when you received it for transfer at your FFL? When I buy a gun from a web dealer, I open the sealed factory box and inspect the weapon before completing the transfer. At that point, you don't have to accept it if something's wrong. Some local dealers open and handle customer guns, I've seen one pass them around to his buddies that were hanging out. I would never do business with a store like that.
Yes I inspected it but I didn't go so far as to push on the pin and see if it protrudes out from the hole in the slide. Never thought the firing pin could be broken on day one.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2016, 05:48:36 PM »
Don't they test fire these at the factory?
My thoughts exactly.. I ran a search to see what marking would indicate that it was test fired but came up with nothing.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2016, 06:08:21 PM »
CZ ships a test target with each gun. If you are missing the test target and the back straps something is fishy on the dealer end. Does the Urban model come with backstraps?

When I buy a gun from a web dealer, I open the sealed factory box and inspect the weapon before completing the transfer.

I've never had a "sealed" box on delivery or at a shop. Closest I ever came to that was a rifle wrapped in layers of bubble wrap about 6" thick with a mailing label shipped to me from a gun broker dealer. Couldn't even tell it was a gun. That was all the shipping protection he used. My dealer didn't even open it up to confirm the serial number and put it in his book. Called and told my to come down before close of business. After he showed it to me and we took lots of pictures I spent 15 minutes getting it out of the cocoon. Gun was in perfect condition, but still think the dealer was an idiot.
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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2016, 06:15:35 PM »
CZ ships a test target with each gun. If you are missing the test target and the back straps something is fishy on the dealer end. Does the Urban model come with backstraps?


It's advertised as coming with backstraps. I didn't know about a test target. That's 3 items missing or defective. FP, Target & Backstraps. Very strange.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2016, 06:18:13 PM »
Firing pins usually dont break like that. I would say gun was made non-firing for some reason.
then got into the distribution network.
Just replace the firing pin.

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Re: Broken FP on BRAND NEW P-09 Urban Grey "Suppressor Ready" series
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2016, 06:23:39 PM »
For transfers, my local guy opens the shipping box and records the serial number off of the factory box. That way the buyer is the first to handle his weapon and there is no finger pointed at him if something is wrong. Everything is done on camera as well. My FFL is a great guy, guess I'm spoiled.To the O.P., I wasn't suggesting that you should have checked the FP, but the missing back straps would have been a clue and I would have either refused it or had my FFL on the phone with the shipping dealer. Now that you've accepted it, it's yours. You can't exactly blame CZ for shipping a gun in this condition since you don't really know if they did. Do you know your FFL, did he say the box was sealed when he received it? I hope it works out for you.