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Offline BangBangBang

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B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« on: March 27, 2016, 07:36:43 PM »
Anyone have one? I read somewhere B&T was setup to manufacture suppressors in the US, but I haven't seen any for sale.

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2016, 08:35:54 PM »
Do you have a link to where they are available?  B&T suppressors are super expensive.

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2016, 08:51:46 PM »
Do you have a link to where they are available?  B&T suppressors are super expensive.
Not sure if anyone in the US is manufacturing/distributing them...

http://www.czub.cz/en/tlumic-bt.html
https://www.bt-ag.ch/shop/eng/maschinenpistolen/bt-smgpdw-suppressor-cal-9mm

If they are expensive, I would probably just opt for a Silencerco Octane 9/45 with the 18x1 adaptor for the Scorpion. The Octane is the "official" can the carbine model was built around.

If it were priced like Thompson or Gemtech, I would consider getting it as a dedicated can to live on the scorpion.
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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2016, 02:31:21 AM »
*"official" by CZ-USA standards, not CZ-UB.  Important caveat.

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2016, 10:51:36 AM »
*"official" by CZ-USA standards, not CZ-UB.  Important caveat.

Interesting comment. May I ask why you say that these are not licensed between CZUB, and B&T?

You believe CZ-USA has any ability to receive these?

Interesting....

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2016, 04:13:33 PM »
I love it 18x1 threaded and clip notches to secure it. If not expensive in comparison to current offerings could be a fast and easy option for the Scorpion.

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 03:43:32 AM »
*"official" by CZ-USA standards, not CZ-UB.  Important caveat.

Uhh... I got the photo from the CZ-UB website...   ??? ??
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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2016, 03:42:54 PM »
*"official" by CZ-USA standards, not CZ-UB.  Important caveat.

Interesting comment. May I ask why you say that these are not licensed between CZUB, and B&T?

You believe CZ-USA has any ability to receive these?

Interesting....

I was referencing the Octane referenced in the post immediately above.

CZ-USA is a separate company and importer.  For the Carbine, not a standard CZ-UB product they partnered w/ Silencerco for the Octane...

CZ-UB, a separate company from CZ-USA, has partnered w/ B&T on that suppressor...

Expense for Europeans with firearms are typically less of a concern as they can usually only own a couple and also are only allowed to possess a limited amount of ammo, so their "gun budgets" allow them to fully dress out each specific weapon to a greater extent than most US gun owners...  Also, a lot of places in Europe require suppressors for shooting firearms -- socialist workplace safety laws (preventing hear loss), preventing noise disturbances, etc...


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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2016, 03:58:48 PM »
To be perfectly clear, CZ-USA is a wholly owned subsidiary of CZ-UB, while a stand alone company n the US.

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2016, 01:24:17 AM »
To be perfectly clear, CZ-USA is a wholly owned subsidiary of CZ-UB, while a stand alone company n the US.

Right, but subsidiary is a separate company that has independence to engage in its own markets, etc, as it sees fit.  Also separate leadership. 
CZ-UB may be the parent and CZ-USA the child, but they are not one and the same.  That was my point.

Have done some US company subsidiaries in foreign markets and done the full dance with lawyers, etc, before structuring as such as well as a couple different parent-subsidiary control structures so know the drill...  Bottom line, no parent has complete control of their subsidiary no matter the structure as doing so is a drain on resources of parent and detrimental to efficient and optimal operation of parent entity...

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Re: B&T CZ Scorpion Evo 3 Suppressor
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2016, 01:31:32 AM »
The MP5SD has thirty 2.5mm ports in the barrel starting a little forward of the chamber that reduce the velocity of 124 gr nato ammo to subsonic velocity and also "captures" a lot of the ported gas in the tube underneath of the handguard prior to the impulse of the gun firing and makes the suppressor more efficient so it doesn't have to "catch" all of the gas in the expansion chamber and it takes more time for the captured gas to exit into the atmosphere out of the suppressor.

I will go further on to say that H&K was not the first to have done a suppressor in such a manner either.  That is very similar to the coveted and infamous Delisle 45acp carbines to dismiss if you have ever seen one, or have researched the specs.

Delisle is very cool.  Tim from MAC did a video awhile back on one he had custom built -- and the bottom line is I want one.

Importantly, NATO 9mm does not have to be 124 gr.   Bullet can be between 112-127 grs.  US spec for NATO-compliance is 124gr, but that's not quite the same...