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Offline earlytimz

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Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« on: July 01, 2016, 03:27:21 PM »
So I recently picked up a suppressor ready urban grey P-01 omega. I waited (like many others I'm sure) for well over a year for CZ to release this pistol. Originally I wanted the black one but on a last minute whim I went with the grey. This is my second CZ. I picked up a P-09 duty about 2 years ago and sold an EAA Sar k2p before that.
Out of the box this thing is a looker. The color is a little darker than it appears online and the black on grey sets it off. I was worried about the height of the sights, but they are not obnoxious and seem very easy to get on target. My guess is they are only 3 or 4mm taller than normal sights.
First trip to the range and the range officer couldn't get enough of it. Hell, I couldn't either! I definitely made at least one new CZ fan that day. I could go on about how good it feels and how well it shoots, but I'm in a CZ forum so it's like preaching to the choir.. Haha.
So my first impressions are making me love most everything about this pistol. One exception, I wish the thumb safety had a little more meat on it. I have learned how to sweep it successfully and consistently but still wish there was just a little more there to get a hold of.



Ok fast forward 2 weeks and I'm ready to see just how well it performs with a suppressor. I met up with a friend last weekend who has a legal homebrew can. I had some 135gr reloads, rated at about 900fps.
First thing we noticed was that the barrel threaded too far into the can. This became evident when racking the slide and it wouldn't return to battery. The guide rod protrudes and tilts during the racking sequence, gets hung on the suppressor, where it binds up during the slide's forward movement, stopping the slide.
We found a washer to use as a can spacer, which did the trick. No more guide rod binding. Is this the fix? Or would an aluminum guide rod do the trick? Not if it's the same length or longer it won't. Maybe a few MM's can be filed off the end of the guide rod? I dunno..
First shot fired but failed to eject the spent case. Hand racked, fire, fail to eject, and repeat... So the recoil spring needs changed. I get it, no biggie, but this thing is supposed to be "suppressor ready".

Now this doesn't change how I feel about the P-01. Forget about the suppressor woes and I still love it. Just a little disappointed about how it's being sold and marketed.

I may be interested in trading the barrel and taller night sights for a shorter barrel and factory height night sights, if anyone is interested. These weren't the key selling points for me when I bought it anyway, I was more interested in the grey finish and 16rd mags.



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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2016, 09:57:38 AM »
So nobody has tried to put a can on their new "suppressor ready" pistol?

Anyone have the same or similar issues?



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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2016, 11:09:12 AM »
No issues for these guys..

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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2016, 11:28:39 AM »

First thing we noticed was that the barrel threaded too far into the can. This became evident when racking the slide and it wouldn't return to battery. The guide rod protrudes and tilts during the racking sequence, gets hung on the suppressor, where it binds up during the slide's forward movement, stopping the slide.
We found a washer to use as a can spacer, which did the trick. No more guide rod binding. Is this the fix? Or would an aluminum guide rod do the trick? Not if it's the same length or longer it won't. Maybe a few MM's can be filed off the end of the guide rod? I dunno..
First shot fired but failed to eject the spent case. Hand racked, fire, fail to eject, and repeat... So the recoil spring needs changed. I get it, no biggie, but this thing is supposed to be "suppressor ready".

What suppressor? Are you using a recoil booster? You will need to, if not...
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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2016, 03:56:37 PM »
Thank you for that!
Being new to suppressors, I wasn't even aware of these things.
I've got some reading to do.

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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2016, 04:08:14 PM »
Thank you for that!
Being new to suppressors, I wasn't even aware of these things.
I've got some reading to do.

Anytime :) Let us know how it goes! 
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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2016, 05:53:15 PM »
Your ammo is only 121.5 FP it way too light with a factory spring.  you are going to need the #14lb spring.

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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2016, 07:52:22 PM »
I am betting the problem is the home brew can. The can causes the action to slow down on browning style tilting barrel guns without a sufficient recoil booster. Fixed barrel guns don't have that problem.

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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 09:03:59 AM »
Your ammo is only 121.5 FP it way too light with a factory spring.  you are going to need the #14lb spring.

Thanks boss.. Any idea what # the factory spring is? Will this eliminate the need for a booster, or is it a "try and see" situation?


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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 09:13:19 AM »
I am betting the problem is the home brew can. The can causes the action to slow down on browning style tilting barrel guns without a sufficient recoil booster. Fixed barrel guns don't have that problem.

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After some late night, crash course suppressor research, I think you're right. Too much weight hanging off that tilting barrel. It's starting to make sense now, and it also explains why we didn't have these issues on the other guns we tried. (1911-22 and a 9mm carbine)

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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 09:53:40 AM »
Thanks boss.. Any idea what # the factory spring is? Will this eliminate the need for a booster, or is it a "try and see" situation?

Factory spring is, I think, 17# ... and, no, you can't really avoid using a booster, at least not in my experience.
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Re: Suppressor ready P-01 review and questions
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2016, 04:22:20 PM »
Finally found the very elusive paternal twin I've been looking for. Used, local, private seller and under-priced. This is CZ #3 for me... Feels like I hit the lottery.