keeping mags loaded

[copenhagen]

The point of my experiment was to investigate potentially harmful effects of two popular gun oils on Scorpion magazine plastic.  I believe it's safe to say that any product that you clean or lubricate your firearm with will be deposited in some quantity on and in your magazine during firing.  Furthermore, AP brushes have a habit of being used to remove carbon, also spreading any products you may use around.

[armoredman]

Well, that is certainly interesting, and I appreciate the time you took to experiment with this, thank you very much for sharing.

If these are the same mags that CZ has been making for this gun for years or the same composition then I'm hesitant to say that there's an inherent flaw in the magazines or the polymer.

Yes they are, and I agree.

I am also old school military - thou shalt never ever oil magazines; Box O' Truth did an interesting experiment with penetrating oils and primers some years back. As for "atomized oil" getting into magazines, there's a lot more gunpowder residue in there than oil, unless you're running your guns very wet. Out here in the desert, oil attracts things like sand and snot, so we run guns dryer than other places. I have not oiled the inside of a magazine since about 1981, which, also, might explain why my magazines are running strong. Also, I have never used Militec oil for anything - Weapon Shield is my favorite CLP.

[copenhagen]

SC is not the desert.   If you like rust, avoid oil.

[mtl111]

Lol! I'm in Arkansas, lots of rain and high humidity. I know what you're talking about Copenhagen!

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[copenhagen]

96hrs:  sort of boring.  Ballistol and Control are fine, but still have one militec mag that is refusing to pop:

[armoredman]

SC is not the desert.   If you like rust, avoid oil.

Well, sweat eats metal. So I use oil on the outside of the metal for rust preventative on surfaces that might rust, but polymer doesn't seem to rust, so far. I do have to oil a lot of magazine release buttons on pistols because the best finish in the world is no match for constant sweat. But again, I've never once seen polymer rust. I was a Gunners Mate Guns in the US Navy and we just regular old CLP on small arms in a salt water atmosphere and they stayed fine with a standard military finish. Yes, we checked them often in the armory and when mounted on the gunwale, foc'sle and fantail i this is where I learned to hate the M2HB bolt assembly.
I am not disagreeing with your experiment - I think it's a great idea and appreciate your time and expense in doing it. Thank you for doing this.

[Obiwan]

I run the entire spring of a magazine through an oily patch, on new magazines and every year or two after that. The inside and outside of the magazine, as well as the follower, gets sprayed with Hornady's OneShot, then wiped clean and dry with a patch. No oil is applied. As mentioned, oil can migrate into primers, and it attracts dust and dirt. The wipe with OneShot does not leave an oily film. But it slicks up the mag (teflon coating) where the cartridge and follower move very nice.
I realized I do have a loaded 20 rounder for the Evo. That mag got the same procedure. Don't recall when it was loaded, but it's been months ago... maybe April? No cracks. I'm reasonable sure that OneShot won't harm it.

[Obiwan]

copenhagen: How's the last Militec mag doing? Did it finally burst? (man, the suspense is killing me!) 

[copenhagen]

~5 days:  last militec won't burst, but the Ballistol and Control still look new.

[Obiwan]

Well, you can always sprinkle some Militec over that mag to help it along. 

But seriously, from the pictures the other day, and even today, I don't know how that top round is being retained. It looks like the lips are spread far enough where that top round should just pop out. (which certainly would cause the remaining rounds to push up with enough force to break the lip with the largest crack, freeing them all). If it hasn't blown yet, I doubt it will. I think the chlorine has done its job and evaporated. It may just remain like this if left untouched. Certainly becoming more interesting as time ticks by.

[mursalot]

i would say after a week, if it hasn't had a catastrophic failure by then, load it in your scorpion and see if it functions.

[juggernault98]

I had this mag loaded for bout a month. Took it out of the bag today showing my brother-in-law and noticed the crack. Once I took the rounds out it obviously broke. Gotta send her in.

[st381183]

I had this mag loaded for bout a month. Took it out of the bag today showing my brother-in-law and noticed the crack. Once I took the rounds out it obviously broke. Gotta send her in.

So you had sprayed Militec1 on this magazine? 

[juggernault98]

I had this mag loaded for bout a month. Took it out of the bag today showing my brother-in-law and noticed the crack. Once I took the rounds out it obviously broke. Gotta send her in.

So you had sprayed Militec1 on this magazine?

No


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[tcoz]

Did you use any kind of lubricant or cleaner on it?

I think Lancer really needs to get involved in the Scorpion mag market by applying their hybrid design principles.