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Offline Jonesn

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Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« on: September 09, 2016, 09:52:51 AM »
I was just curious what the lure of a Rami with the decocker is??? Ive got the safety version Rami and just freakn love it. What gives with this decocker thingie?

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2016, 10:04:59 AM »
For me, it reduces the length of the heavy trigger pull.  It does not reduce the weight of the pull but makes it shorter. I also like that I can carry it cocked and locked without having to remember to drop the safety before pulling the trigger.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2016, 10:19:44 AM »
What TNman said plus I like the sights on the BD better.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2016, 10:53:56 AM »
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I also like that I can carry it cocked and locked without having to remember to drop the safety before pulling the trigger.

Exactly.
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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2016, 10:54:17 AM »
The only benefit aside from the sights that are standard is the decocker allows you to put it into "half cocked" DA mode without pulling the trigger to drop the hammer manually like you would/do have to do with your safety model. Aside from that one specific function the decocker doesn't do anything, meaning it will not act as a safety if you want it like that of a Beretta 92/M9. So if you're someone that wants to carry DA, but has an issue with pulling the trigger with a live round in the chamber to lower the hammer by hand and/or cannot think of any actual use for the safety, the RAMI BD or decocker model is right up your alley.

I prefer the safety model because I don't have a problem with lowering the hammer to half cocked DA to carry it, but unlike the decocker model it gives me a safety to use at the range if I want it, and it allows the possibility to carry cocked and locked in SA just like a 1911 for example. I also don't care for 3 dot sights, so I couldn't care less about the BD coming with the Meprolights cause I would likely be changing them anyway lol. I like how the safety will only possibly engage in SA mode, wich lets me carry in half cocked DA after lowering the hammer manually without fear or chance of the safety accidentally getting engaged in the holster.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2016, 10:57:55 AM »
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I also like that I can carry it cocked and locked without having to remember to drop the safety before pulling the trigger.

Exactly.
Must have a different definition of "cocked and locked" that I do, cocked and locked was a phrase used to describe carry of a 1911 back in the day lol, meaning round in the chamber hammer cocked back and safety on to lock it. Carrying it half cocked like a decocker lever does IMHO doesn't equal cocked, and since there's no safety it can't be locked. It's just in half cocked DA with a longer heavy trigger pull acting as the safety.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2016, 11:03:15 AM »
Yeah, that is my thought exactly, thinking of carrying a da auto cocked isn't pleasant without the safety.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2016, 11:24:56 AM »
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thinking of carrying a da auto cocked isn't pleasant without the safety

I worry more about forgetting to flip the safety off in a stressful situation.  The heavier DA pull on the trigger isn't going to happen by accident.  All these details are what each person is comfortable with.  I currently have a Ruger LCP Custom (DAO) in my pocket that doesn't have a safety.  I am always very, very careful about keeping it firmly in the holster with that trigger guard covered!  No worries.
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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2016, 11:41:05 AM »
For me it is because when I first got into serious pistol shooting in 1990 I was trained extensively on DA/SA with decocker (moving on to true DAO), so that's simply what is most natural to me. I don't have a problem with a traditional style safety equipped pistol allowing cocked and locked carry, it's just not my personal preference.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2016, 12:08:11 PM »
Depending on circumstances I carry either the RAMI BD de-cocked or a cocked and locked Sig P938. Back in the day I was brought up shooting both double action revolvers and true 1911's so either DA or SA is OK for me. I never did like lowering the hammer manually on a live round. That being said I think that you should carry what you feel most comfortable with as your personal preference.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2016, 04:33:47 PM »
For me, it reduces the length of the heavy trigger pull.  It does not reduce the weight of the pull but makes it shorter. I also like that I can carry it cocked and locked without having to remember to drop the safety before pulling the trigger.

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How do you carry cocked and locked on a decocker version?
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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2016, 04:53:59 PM »
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How do you carry cocked and locked on a decocker version?

I think what we are trying to express here is that we are as comfortable about carrying decocked and ready to fire with a longer trigger pull as those who carry cocked and locked.   
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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2016, 08:31:16 PM »
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How do you carry cocked and locked on a decocker version?

I think what we are trying to express here is that we are as comfortable about carrying decocked and ready to fire with a longer trigger pull as those who carry cocked and locked.

This is no different then my Saftey version Rami with 1 in the pipe and the hammer down. Safety can't be engaged unless hammer is cocked. Its neither cocked or locked......

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2016, 09:19:13 PM »
I'm a fan of the safety model for three reasons:
1. can carry cocked and locked, at half cock, or hammer down, whichever, it's my choice for the particular situation.

2. Low profile of the safety vs decocker for carry

3. slightly more simple.

The decocker version does have better sites.  And the decocker is nice, but I still don't have complete confidence in it.  Whether I lower to half cock with decocker or thumb, I observe all the same safety principals.

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Re: Pros and Cons: Rami Decocker vs Rami Safety Model
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2016, 05:24:13 PM »
For me, it reduces the length of the heavy trigger pull.  It does not reduce the weight of the pull but makes it shorter. I also like that I can carry it cocked and locked without having to remember to drop the safety before pulling the trigger.

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How do you carry cocked and locked on a decocker version?
Probably used the wrong terminology. I chamber a round and drop the hammer using the device. Not locked like a safety but safe to carry.

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