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Offline USMCGrunt

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2016, 06:01:55 PM »
Has anybody actually made it all the way through a Nutnfancy video or is it just me?  I think I got to something about the magazine release before I fell asleep on the couch.  Might be his droning on and on and on but he sure is a good cure for insomnia. 

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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2016, 06:22:14 PM »
Has anybody actually made it all the way through a Nutnfancy video or is it just me?  I think I got to something about the magazine release before I fell asleep on the couch.  Might be his droning on and on and on but he sure is a good cure for insomnia.


This one was "only" 32 minutes long. Usually Long n Winded blathers on for 45+ minutes, so this was relatively succinct. Took me 3 tries but I finally got all the way through -- only because it was interspersed with lots of comedy relief as he spouted off a bunch of wrong info on the Vz58.

I'm glad he gave it a bad review so that people who know better can pick up a CSA Vz and not have to contend with his fanboys.

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2016, 07:07:03 PM »
I listen to his vids at work since I don't need to pay much attention. Hehehe... This is the first of his vids that I felt I had a better understanding of what he was 'reviewing' than he did. 😉

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2016, 07:26:58 PM »
Well, he did have a non folding stock version that might be one of the earlier Century builds that do have AK muzzle device threads (I have one like that).

First thing I thought of with the failure to feed is weak springs, it is a parts gun after all.

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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2016, 07:39:11 PM »
With 600K+ subscribers he has a lot of fanboys and I'm happy with a negative review.
A rave review would certainly drive up competition in me procuring a 2nd one.

I certainly don't need his validation of my purchase.

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2016, 11:26:50 PM »
Personally i think is a little too late for his unfair and poor knowledgeable review of our loved and controversial rifle.Century sold so much of this rifles that they completely ran dry.After the needed modifications are done we are left with an excelente tool,specially for what we paid of..Let the haters do their thing I'll not let go of my vz for no reason at all ;) ;D

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« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2016, 12:59:06 AM »
Has anybody actually made it all the way through a Nutnfancy video or is it just me?  I think I got to something about the magazine release before I fell asleep on the couch.  Might be his droning on and on and on but he sure is a good cure for insomnia. 
It makes good background noise...   Actually, his voice with the 1.5x and 2x speeds you can do on youtube is pretty funny -- but with fast speed it becomes a distraction rather than background...

I listen to his vids at work since I don't need to pay much attention. Hehehe... This is the first of his vids that I felt I had a better understanding of what he was 'reviewing' than he did. 😉
Makes you wonder how much of an expert he actually is regarding content of earlier vids too!

Well, he did have a non folding stock version that might be one of the earlier Century builds that do have AK muzzle device threads (I have one like that).

First thing I thought of with the failure to feed is weak springs, it is a parts gun after all.

Good point, but I've also seen folks replace the folding stocks w/ fixed ones after the fact in an attempt to charge an extra $50-100.  Looking at the receiver though, it looks like one of the latest gens.  Does yours have the ORF/AWO receiver that looks like a standard Czech, or the more modern Century profile?  My understanding on the LH thread barrels is that only some of the earliest examples in the AWO/ORF receivers received...  Haven't seen them reported very often at all, so curious about your experience there as I've never witnessed in person.

With 600K+ subscribers he has a lot of fanboys and I'm happy with a negative review.
A rave review would certainly drive up competition in me procuring a 2nd one.

I certainly don't need his validation of my purchase.

I don't think it was fair and unbiased review, which bothers me.  But the fact that he would convey information that is so exceptionally wrong and/or intentionally dishonest or otherwise negligent in that vid -- I find that offensive to both the weapon system and the time of anyone watching...  YMMV.

Regarding competition, the more folks that have an interest, the better it is all for all concerned IMO.  I really don't like the monopoly of Czechpoint on import, distribution, and retail -- and think the "rarity" is a business decision rather than an issue of supply... When folks take the course I believe Czechpoint is taking -- purely speculation, somewhat informed but no first person knowledge of internals of the company -- it hurts their customers as they're overcharging and it hurts their manufacturer as they are selling less product than they'd otherwise be able...  And Czechpoint themselves could make more money with a higher volume of sales with slightly lower profit margins -- to me, it looks like obsession with profit per item rather than looking at overall business profits (i.e., an entity either with cashflow issues or limited business acumen).  Again, all of this is speculation and not intended to slander/libel in any way, but as a consumer I have serious concerns anytime there's a monopoly and that monopoly fails to meet demand as seems to be the case with Czechpoint; and as a small businessman, something about the Czechpoint business model strikes me as off...  (Do note I didn't even get into the substantially lower prices the Canadians pay for the same guns even if assuming that $1 USD = $1 CAD, which it doesn't...  And Canadians have custom receivers, barrels, etc, these days too...  But they have one importer but multiple distributors and retailers...)

Personally i think is a little too late for his unfair and poor knowledgeable review of our loved and controversial rifle.Century sold so much of this rifles that they completely ran dry.After the needed modifications are done we are left with an excelente tool,specially for what we paid of..Let the haters do their thing I'll not let go of my vz for no reason at all ;) ;D
Atlantic is selling them at $650 or so new right now IIRC.  Anyone who purchased a firesale VZ2008 from AIM, PSA, etc, got a heck of a bargain. 

My issue comes down to facts are facts, and bad information is no better than a lie.  YMMV.
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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2016, 04:59:48 PM »
It's the first time I'm giving nutn thumbs down on his youtube video
For lack of enthusiasm, lack of trying and FUDD.
Must be the aspartame...
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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2016, 03:08:47 AM »
Nutn's videos need to be watched with the annotations active as that's how he states corrections. The moment he stated that it's Hungarian there was an annotated correction.

It seemed like one of the most unenthusiastic reviews he's done, partially because the gun failed to feed many times and the review was highly demanded by fans to a person that has scant to no experience/knowledge of this rifle type.  Then he did some research on it, including accessories available but it was obviously quick and inadequate.

If someone had given him a Czechpoint gun with adjustable stock, brake and scope rail the review would have probably been near completely positive.  At the very end his son said he wanted to like it.

I get that his videos are long and not everyone's cup of tea but he certainly is thorough, sadly I think he should have skipped this one.

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2016, 10:05:47 PM »
Nutn's videos need to be watched with the annotations active as that's how he states corrections. The moment he stated that it's Hungarian there was an annotated correction.


Nobody's got time for that.  His errors in the video far exceed any slip of the tongue.  The content in that video beyond his personal experiences with that specific gun wasn't on point, whatever that reason.

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Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2016, 10:55:05 PM »
I really dislike his style of video.
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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2016, 11:54:47 PM »
Life is too short to waste time with Long n Winded. Not only are his videos excruciatingly verbose, but they're full of errors and irritating, whiney opinions and are just downright boring.

Of the gun reviewers, the one's I find most informative, succinct and enjoyable to watch are (in order):

AK Operators' Union
Mr. Guns n Gear
Military Arms Channel

Hickok 45 is kind of long winded, but he's such an amiable old guy (not at all irritating) that he's at least entertaining, especially since he can regularly hit a gong at 300 yards with a hand gun. And I have to say I'm taking MAC with a grain of salt these days since he's now running a gun shop, but I think he's still fairly objective.

I'd really like to see Rob Ski / AKOU do a 5,000 rd. torture test on a CSA Vz58.
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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2016, 09:15:50 AM »
Life is too short to waste time with Long n Winded. Not only are his videos excruciatingly verbose, but they're full of errors and irritating, whiney opinions and are just downright boring.

Of the gun reviewers, the one's I find most informative, succinct and enjoyable to watch are (in order):

AK Operators' Union
Mr. Guns n Gear
Military Arms Channel

Hickok 45 is kind of long winded, but he's such an amiable old guy (not at all irritating) that he's at least entertaining, especially since he can regularly hit a gong at 300 yards with a hand gun. And I have to say I'm taking MAC with a grain of salt these days since he's now running a gun shop, but I think he's still fairly objective.

I'd really like to see Rob Ski / AKOU do a 5,000 rd. torture test on a CSA Vz58.

Would love to see that also, but a failure of any sort would be a never ending criticism over on ak files

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2016, 05:21:06 AM »
Would love to see that also, but a failure of any sort would be a never ending criticism over on ak files

Does that criticism not already exist amongst the AK fanboys/apologists?  Unless it's a Valmet or Galil, I really doubt the average AK to be superior to the average Czech vZ58.

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Re: Nutnfancy reviews the 'Hungarian' VZ2008
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2016, 01:13:30 PM »
All great comments on this thread, and not a lot to be added.  Meataxe wins for my favorite thoughts, as we are on the same page as YT vlogs go. 

We heard NF was looking for a Vz58 loner. Can't get myself to watch the video, as I gave up on his semi-informed vlog post novellas at least 2 years ago -- truly cant see any value in them.  Life is too short to waste watching NF videos.

If you want a real brain meat grinder watch NF hour long political commentary videos.  I'll bet you cant make it to the end.
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