Czechpoint VZ 58

[CZU]

First post in a while. I had wanted one of these since CZ-USA started selling them several years ago. I fooled around and didn't get one then so when this showed up at the lgs I jumped on it and put it on layaway. While it was being held for me I started looking for 10 round mags and soon found out I would probably find hens teeth first. After looking daily at the usual places with no luck I finally gave it a rest. Sat down at the computer one day and thought I should give it another try. Went to Ebay and sure enough some had just been listed,there were 5 left and I grabbed them all.  They were professionally converted and all five ran perfect. Next problem though are the 922(r) compliance parts. Anyone know where I can find US made followers and floorplates?

I love this rifle but think I am going to put the regular buttstock on it. It shoots like a dream, I was using Tula 122gr hollowpoints. I will have to get some more of that stuff for sure.

[marcoc]

Congratulations! Try to watch "Strikeback" the TV series (started out as a UK series then US) and you just might end up getting your second VZ58 on another layaway! 

[Glasspix]

I love the black finish on the Czechpoint rifles, as compared to the grayish on the original surplus VZ folding stocks and top section. I am on the market for 15 round mags too, they make it easier to shoot from the rest and the ground, they are fairly readily available in Europe though. Why are you considering replacing the folding with the fixed stock?

[Obiwan]

I got my baseplates and followers directly from Czechpoint:  https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/vz-58-parts-and-accessories?l=5

[CZU]

I love the black finish on the Czechpoint rifles, as compared to the grayish on the original surplus VZ folding stocks and top section. I am on the market for 15 round mags too, they make it easier to shoot from the rest and the ground, they are fairly readily available in Europe though. Why are you considering replacing the folding with the fixed stock?

When I first saw these rifles several years ago they had the fixed stocks. I guess those stocks left an impression on me not only as  being different but well thought out. The Czechs build great weapons and this one should have been added to the collection years ago.

I got my baseplates and followers directly from Czechpoint:  https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/vz-58-parts-and-accessories?l=5

Thanks for the info, I'll get some ordered.

Congratulations! Try to watch "Strikeback" the TV series (started out as a UK series then US) and you just might end up getting your second VZ58 on another layaway! 

I have seen that, I'll have to make a point to set it up on the DVR.

[Bigdude]

I also own a VZ-58 by czechpoint. IMO it is much better than the Century Arms copy of it.

[slimjim]

The Czechpoint rifles are nice for what they are, however very overpriced for what they are! Compared to the early D-Techniks the Czechpoint ones for many yrs. have more fake parts then ever!

1) Wrong type & color of paint.
2) German barrels button rifled instead of COLD Hammer forged, not good.
3) Pistol grips & handguard now US made, even the Beaver Barf.
4)Trigger & 2 mag components US made.

On the early D-Techniks only US made things were trigger group and 2 parts in Mag. but those are impossible to find and worth much more than any current versions!

[Brasky]

The Czechpoint rifles are nice for what they are, however very overpriced for what they are! Compared to the early D-Techniks the Czechpoint ones for many yrs. have more fake parts then ever!

1) Wrong type & color of paint.
2) German barrels button rifled instead of COLD Hammer forged, not good.
3) Pistol grips & handguard now US made, even the Beaver Barf.
4)Trigger & 2 mag components US made.

On the early D-Techniks only US made things were trigger group and 2 parts in Mag. but those are impossible to find and worth much more than any current versions!

I have yet to see you make a post that isn't complaining about a rifle

[slimjim]

Stating facts as they are now! That is not complaining I just want any foreign guns to be as close to the "Real Deal"  as possible and the Czechpoints are NOW way off, actually I think the VZ2008 has as many original parts or maybe more than the current Chechpoint VZ58's!

[RSR]

922r.  All have to have the same number of US made parts, it's just a matter of which parts.  Even the early Dtechniks.

[slimjim]

That is correct, the VZ 58 needs only 5 US 922 R parts but the current CZechpoints also have the German made barrel which is another foreign part!.

Depending as to what type of VZ U buy the US 922 parts may/will differ!

[RSR]

Sixteen parts, need 6 US parts.

1 Receiver
2 Barrel
3 Muzzle attachment
4 Bolt
5 Bolt carrier
6 Gas piston
7 Trigger
8 Hammer
9 Sear
10 Disconnector
11 Buttstock
12 Pistol grip
13 Forearm, handguard
14 Magazine body
15 Follower
16 Floorplate

[slimjim]

U are 100% wrong the VZ58 needs only 5  US 922R parts since it has a milled not stamped receiver!  My D-Technik has 5 US parts trigger group 3 and the other 2 are in mag !

So I cant use original mags in it unless I add 2 more parts to gun or use compliant mags!

In my FEG made AMD 65 it needs 6 US 922 parts has trigger group 3 and have to use US made mag for the other 3 or add 3 more to gun!

Go to Chechpoint site and click on a VZ 58 and it tells U the 5 922R parts are etc.. varies on type of model!

QUOTE!
The vz.58 Sporter was imported into the United States in compliance with 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3). CzechPoint adds USA made parts to the vz. 58 Sporter so as to legally reconfigure the firearm with a separate pistol grip and stock. This means that all vz. 58 rifles capable of using double stack magazines possess 5 USA made parts to fully comply with Title 18, U.S.C., Section 922(r).  The vz. 58 rifle is not sold with the bayonet lug as importation of the vz. 58 with a bayonet lug would violate US import law.

The five USA made parts used on the vz. 58 Military 762 model rifle are: pistol grip, handguards, trigger (glass-filled nylon), magazine follower, and magazine floor plate.
End of Quote!

Some of their VZ 58's will use only the sear, disconnector and trigger which are 3 922 parts and the other 2 will be in mag!


Czech made parts (x10):
1: Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (Made in CZ, Item #1)
2: Barrels (Made in CZ, Item #2)
6: Bolts (Made in CZ, Item #3)
7: Bolt carriers (Made in CZ, Item #4)
9: Gas pistons (Made in CZ, Item #5)
10: Trigger housings (Made in CZ, Item #6, assuming this applies to the trigger guard.)
15: Butt stocks (Made in CZ, Item #7)
16: Pistol grips (Made in CZ, Item #8)
17: Forearms, hand guards (Made in CZ, Item #9)
18: Magazine bodies (Made in CZ, Item #10)

U.S.A. made parts (x5):
11: Triggers (Made in USA)
13: Sears (Made in USA)
14: Disconnectors (Made in USA)
19: Followers (Made in USA)
20: Floorplates (Made in USA)

Total 922r parts applicable to the Czechpoint-USA imported D-Technic VZ58 = 15 (10 Czech made parts, 5 U.S.A. made parts

[TJNewton]

U are 100% wrong the VZ58 needs only 5  US 922R parts since it has a milled not stamped receiver!  My D-Technik has 5 US parts trigger group 3 and the other 2 are in mag !

So I cant use original mags in it unless I add 2 more parts to gun or use compliant mags!

In my FEG made AMD 65 it needs 6 US 922 parts has trigger group 3 and have to use US made mag for the other 3 or add 3 more to gun!

Go to Chechpoint site and click on a VZ 58 and it tells U the 5 922R parts are etc.. varies on type of model!

QUOTE!
The vz.58 Sporter was imported into the United States in compliance with 18 U.S.C. 925(d)(3). CzechPoint adds USA made parts to the vz. 58 Sporter so as to legally reconfigure the firearm with a separate pistol grip and stock. This means that all vz. 58 rifles capable of using double stack magazines possess 5 USA made parts to fully comply with Title 18, U.S.C., Section 922(r).  The vz. 58 rifle is not sold with the bayonet lug as importation of the vz. 58 with a bayonet lug would violate US import law.

The five USA made parts used on the vz. 58 Military 762 model rifle are: pistol grip, handguards, trigger (glass-filled nylon), magazine follower, and magazine floor plate.
End of Quote!

Some of their VZ 58's will use only the sear, disconnector and trigger which are 3 922 parts and the other 2 will be in mag!


Czech made parts (x10):
1: Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (Made in CZ, Item #1)
2: Barrels (Made in CZ, Item #2)
6: Bolts (Made in CZ, Item #3)
7: Bolt carriers (Made in CZ, Item #4)
9: Gas pistons (Made in CZ, Item #5)
10: Trigger housings (Made in CZ, Item #6, assuming this applies to the trigger guard.)
15: Butt stocks (Made in CZ, Item #7)
16: Pistol grips (Made in CZ, Item #8)
17: Forearms, hand guards (Made in CZ, Item #9)
18: Magazine bodies (Made in CZ, Item #10)

U.S.A. made parts (x5):
11: Triggers (Made in USA)
13: Sears (Made in USA)
14: Disconnectors (Made in USA)
19: Followers (Made in USA)
20: Floorplates (Made in USA)

Total 922r parts applicable to the Czechpoint-USA imported D-Technic VZ58 = 15 (10 Czech made parts, 5 U.S.A. made parts

The striker -- i.e. linear hammer -- is frequently forgotten from VZ58 922r lists.  It does the same thing and would probably be counted by the ATF.  I guess it could be argued in court as to whether or not a striker is indeed a hammer, but it would be a costly argument.  That is, of course, if a 922r violation would ever go court.  As far as I know, there have been no such cases.

[slimjim]

Don't know of any either but there always is a 1st! Strange part is Czechpoint lists that all VZ58's which can take doublestack mags need 5 US parts however they also put 5 US parts in their single stack guns which is a contradiction to what they said!

I have always heard the reason the VZ needs only 5 not 6 US parts is due to their milled receivers.

I am waiting to see when someone will be charged for shouldering a Sig Brace on a pistol! Been worried about using mine and the law changed a week after I got it!