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Offline JoeLiberty

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Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« on: October 10, 2016, 12:24:37 PM »
Arg! I missed the safety and got hung up in my last defensive handgun class. I have put lots of work into trying to make hitting the safety as part of the draw stroke into a muscle memory. We must have done 100-150 draw strokes during the class and I missed one of them.
No boom.
[tries to tap-rack]
hey this thing won't rack... oh yeah, that happens when the safety is on. oops.
I'm guessing my thumb just slipped past it. Sucks to suck.
Is there some reason why no one can make an extended safety lever for these otherwise-wonderful guns???



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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 02:21:16 PM »
I didn't know the P-series offered a safety.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 02:26:40 PM »
I didn't know the P-series offered a safety.

They come equipped with the decocker but the safety parts come with the gun, too.  That's the beauty of the system: you get both options in 1 gun.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 03:59:26 PM »
OP, that's the main reason I never bothered to use my p07 in the cocked and locked mode.  The supplied safety is far too narrow for me.  I have since gone back to the decocker. I don't notice a difference in the double action pull anymore either because the trigger has smoothed out in the 1200 rounds I've put through it.  So I figured the decocker is actually useful for ME.  I can not speak to others experiences.


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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 03:59:30 PM »
Arg! I missed the safety and got hung up in my last defensive handgun class. I have put lots of work into trying to make hitting the safety as part of the draw stroke into a muscle memory. We must have done 100-150 draw strokes during the class and I missed one of them.
No boom.
[tries to tap-rack]
hey this thing won't rack... oh yeah, that happens when the safety is on. oops.
I'm guessing my thumb just slipped past it. Sucks to suck.
Is there some reason why no one can make an extended safety lever for these otherwise-wonderful guns???

In time we may see one. For now i am unaware of any replacement safety lever options for the P series CZs.
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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 05:04:58 PM »
I totally forgot lol. So use to the decocker.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 06:30:20 PM »
Using the decocker (or with the DA/SA pistols, the DA or H.C.) you eliminate that one additional step  between you and your self defense.
Just saying.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 07:09:31 PM »
+1 on the decocker...
 draw and pull the trigger. Don't want an extra step.
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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 08:47:53 AM »
Arg! I missed the safety and got hung up in my last defensive handgun class. I have put lots of work into trying to make hitting the safety as part of the draw stroke into a muscle memory. We must have done 100-150 draw strokes during the class and I missed one of them.
No boom.
[tries to tap-rack]
hey this thing won't rack... oh yeah, that happens when the safety is on. oops.
I'm guessing my thumb just slipped past it. Sucks to suck.
Is there some reason why no one can make an extended safety lever for these otherwise-wonderful guns???

I agree that there is a market / need for an upgraded safety. It's an otherwise wonderful pistol! I didn't personally dislike the size of the safety. I hate how cheap, under-engineered and poorly manufactured the safety detent is.

I love my decocker however. It's a little disconcerting to train with since it's so foreign to my experience. Drawing and firing is not odd for me. It's the actual de-cock and re-holster thats new. I'm definitely having fun with it.

I let a friend buy a P-07 because I was sure that he would not install the safety. He immediately told me how horrible the the safety didn't click positively. I asked if the detent exploded and if he put it back in correctly! He said that must be what that cheap piece of plastic, laying in the baggie was. He thought it was trash.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2016, 11:02:03 AM »
OP, that's the main reason I never bothered to use my p07 in the cocked and locked mode.  The supplied safety is far too narrow for me.  I have since gone back to the decocker. I don't notice a difference in the double action pull anymore either because the trigger has smoothed out in the 1200 rounds I've put through it.  So I figured the decocker is actually useful for ME.  I can not speak to others experiences.

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Giving a lot of thought to this now. My concern is that since I've ingrained myself to ride the safety, if I press the decocker while firing, it will block the hammer. I'm considering getting a P-01 with that rear facing lever or even ::gulp:: going back to Glock...

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2016, 11:51:47 AM »
OP, that's the main reason I never bothered to use my p07 in the cocked and locked mode.  The supplied safety is far too narrow for me.  I have since gone back to the decocker. I don't notice a difference in the double action pull anymore either because the trigger has smoothed out in the 1200 rounds I've put through it.  So I figured the decocker is actually useful for ME.  I can not speak to others experiences.

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Giving a lot of thought to this now. My concern is that since I've ingrained myself to ride the safety, if I press the decocker while firing, it will block the hammer. I'm considering getting a P-01 with that rear facing lever or even ::gulp:: going back to Glock...

I ride the safety on my 75 sao and my 1911's.  It would be hard to trip the de-cocker while firing, at least for me.  I've never really paid attention to where my thumb is on the po7/09 while shooting.


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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 06:05:34 PM »
OP, that's the main reason I never bothered to use my p07 in the cocked and locked mode.  The supplied safety is far too narrow for me.  I have since gone back to the decocker. I don't notice a difference in the double action pull anymore either because the trigger has smoothed out in the 1200 rounds I've put through it.  So I figured the decocker is actually useful for ME.  I can not speak to others experiences.

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Giving a lot of thought to this now. My concern is that since I've ingrained myself to ride the safety, if I press the decocker while firing, it will block the hammer. I'm considering getting a P-01 with that rear facing lever or even ::gulp:: going back to Glock...
pressing the decocker while firing will only switch it to double action no worries.
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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 09:50:19 PM »
Arg! I missed the safety and got hung up in my last defensive handgun class. I have put lots of work into trying to make hitting the safety as part of the draw stroke into a muscle memory. We must have done 100-150 draw strokes during the class and I missed one of them.
No boom.
[tries to tap-rack]
hey this thing won't rack... oh yeah, that happens when the safety is on. oops.
I'm guessing my thumb just slipped past it. Sucks to suck.
Is there some reason why no one can make an extended safety lever for these otherwise-wonderful guns???

I've learned during dry practice sessions to sweep the safety off with my trigger finger as the pistol is clearing the holster, a little bit different but it's working for me.  This is only temporary until I modify the left safety lever (got an extra set of safety levers coming from CZ USA).

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2016, 11:00:42 PM »
Giving a lot of thought to this now. My concern is that since I've ingrained myself to ride the safety, if I press the decocker while firing, it will block the hammer. I'm considering getting a P-01 with that rear facing lever or even ::gulp:: going back to Glock...
I shot a 1911 in competition for about a year before discovering that I liked CZs better, and I also still occasionally carry a few compact 1911s concealed, so I know what you mean about riding the safety with your thumb.  In my experience, the decocker on my P-01 and PCR gave me so much trouble while practicing drills (inadvertently decocking the gun with my thumb while firing) that I ended up shaving the decocker levers down on both guns so that they wouldn't be in the way.  The decocker levers on both of my P-07s do not cause me any issues, and I haven't felt the need to shave them down or switch them out to the manual safeties.  YMMV.



Alternatively, you could also build up the factory safety with some sugru or epoxy to make it easier to disengage.  I did this with my P-09 safeties as an experiment by melting bits of ABS plastic onto them and shaping them (very time consuming). It worked great, but I use the gun as a 3-gun pistol now and went back to the decockers as I wasn't sure that the modified safeties would hold up to the abuse of throwing the gun into boxes.

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Re: Flubbed it! Where the extended safeties at?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 09:28:00 AM »

Yooooooo...Those decockers look great. And that P-01 look sexy as hell. Is the frame anodized grey? Just sell me that one, lol.