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Offline KeithB

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Aftermarket lower
« on: October 18, 2016, 10:54:33 AM »
I read a while back online somewhere the idea of having a different lower for the scorpion that would accept different mags such as Glock mags.  Currently the Scar 17 has one so it will accept 308 P Mags.  Anyone heard anything about such a product?  The trigger pack could just be swapped out from the stock lower.  The only changes would be the mag well, mag release, and bolt hold open.  As most of you know, the lower on this weapon is not the serialized firearm so it is just a part.

I dont mind the scorpion mags except for the feed lips cracking.   I have never had a problem with my glock mags. 

I forsee another mag band of over 10 rounds in the future and  am concerned about running out of scorpion mags due to broken feed lips.

I guess a scorpion mag with metal feed lips would also work, I just haven't seen anything like that in the works yet.


Offline viking499

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 08:04:15 PM »
That would be interesting to see.

Offline OhHey1

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 08:33:34 PM »
If you mean just a magazine well mod to accept Glock mags then heck yes! I'd pay big money for that. If companies are so afraid of making us a new mag, they should make something to allow the Scorpion to accept Glock mags.
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Offline bravo5two

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 09:38:56 PM »
I can't see spending another few hundred bux for the 'new' lower when I can just get a few extra 30 rds mags and put away.  Just my 0.02.

Offline TonyB-PCR

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 09:44:26 PM »
Heck, why not a CZ lower then.  Sort of nice for those of us who already have those nice metal mags...
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Offline Valk

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 09:49:38 PM »
Well, presumably, the goal would be to make mags more accessible/reliable than stock CZ mags, while not sacrificing capacity. As long as you're talking about 9mm mags, that means Glock 18 33-rounders (or Colt SMG mags but most people prefer Glock for pistol cal carbines).

Offline akuser47

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 10:01:05 PM »
I think this would be the trick as then we could use ets glock mags. I'd love a glock lower it would maybe give the scorpion n HK ump look as well. I wouldn't mind that at all.

Offline KeithB

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 11:01:01 PM »
It would be a mostly hollow piece of polymer like the existing lower.  The mag well would be a slightly different shape.  The bolt hold open could probably be made to work as the tab on the Glock mag would be near where the scorpion mag is.  One difference would most likely be a different mag release control.  The mag release would either have to be in front of the mag well or come off the side like an AR15 release due to the mag retention slots being on the front of the glock mag. 

Offline OhHey1

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 12:29:02 AM »
It would be a mostly hollow piece of polymer like the existing lower.  The mag well would be a slightly different shape.  The bolt hold open could probably be made to work as the tab on the Glock mag would be near where the scorpion mag is.  One difference would most likely be a different mag release control.  The mag release would either have to be in front of the mag well or come off the side like an AR15 release due to the mag retention slots being on the front of the glock mag. 

If it took Glock mags, I wouldn't care what they did to it... I love me some Glock mags  O0
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Offline cocowheats

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 12:19:03 PM »
Glock mags in rifles insert a little weird. They do not go straight in like a pmag does in an ad or a colt 9mm mag in a 9mm ar or even the CZ mags into the scorpion. The Glock mags have to insert at an angle to keep the feed lips horizontal when fully inserted so that they feed correctly.

If you could overcome the feed lip issue so that they could be inserted straight, then this would be brilliant. If they have to be inserted at that awkard angle, then I don't see this mod serving much practicality(for me at least) aside from Glock mags being better constructed than the current CZ offerings.

I hate Glock mag AR lowers for this reason...
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Offline Manticore_Arms

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2016, 12:25:01 PM »
Glock mags are single stack feed while the s orpion is a double stack feed. It would take more than a lower to make it work, the bolt would also have to be modified to narrow the lug on the inderside that pushes the rounds into the chamber.

Offline TonyB-PCR

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2016, 12:44:12 PM »
Glock mags are single stack feed while the s orpion is a double stack feed. It would take more than a lower to make it work, the bolt would also have to be modified to narrow the lug on the inderside that pushes the rounds into the chamber.

Thanks for chiming-in MA.

So, with what you explain, and that makes sense, what might be a good candidate for a lower on the Scorpion?
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Offline KeithB

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2016, 01:51:43 PM »
Sounds like it would just be alot easier to make a Scorpion mag with metal feed lips, assuming the cracking issue continues with the new mags.

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2016, 03:14:51 PM »
From a different lower, to modifying various mags or magwell adaptor, there would seem to be a solution or two...

If I could use the same mags as in a 9mm Colt-based AR, as mentioned by John, that would be most desirable, for me at least.
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Offline jamesavery22

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Re: Aftermarket lower
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2016, 03:40:01 PM »
The modification needed to the bolt to feed glock mags is very minor. Maybe minor enough to still allow swapping back to double stack mags. The face of the slide in a glock that feeds rounds is very small. Around an 1/8" wide. The mouth of the feedlips in a glock mag is more like .3"  which may be enough space to fit a bolt with a width to work both ways.

Won't know until someone tries it. For me, even if the modification was permanent, I'd be OK with it. Or I'd just buy/make another bolt.