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Offline McC4

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Difference?
« on: October 18, 2016, 09:39:46 PM »
Looking for a P-01 on Bud's, I saw the CZ 75 D Compact. What is the difference in these two guns? I couldn't find a visual one.
         
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Re: Difference?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2016, 10:06:17 PM »
The 75D will be a PCR.  Different sights and no rail.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2016, 10:32:12 PM »
P-01 and PCR both use 75 D Compact on the slide marking although some P-01s do have P-01 marked on the slide. The 75 D Compact without the rail was the original submission for the Czech police tryouts in the late 90s that was later modified by adding the rail for the police requirement. For the US market, the rail version became the P-01 and the non rail became the PCR (Policie ?esky Republiky even though the rail version was the one adopted by the police). The decocker, railed  alloy frame sold in the Czech Republic is known as 75 D compact. Best to confirm with the seller if you have any doubts.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2016, 10:38:24 PM »
Check to be sure.  The P-01 will have the rail, the PCR will not.  I've seen  P-01's with the P-01 slide marking and with the 75D Compact marking.  In fact the last local gun show had three P-01's at three different dealers with CZ 75 D Compact markings.  What was also interesting is that they also had the chrome colored barrels vs black and none had the NSN numbers. 

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2016, 10:51:34 PM »
Thanks guys, I forgot about the railed 75D's.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2016, 10:52:46 PM »
Many thanks. I assume all the internals are the same. I haven't completely made up my mind on a P-01 or a P-07 yet.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 11:02:09 PM »
The only thing Buds has in stock is the 75D with a rail.

They also hav the P-07 in stock.

Between the two, I prefer the 75D.  It just fits my hand better.  Although both are great shooters.

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Difference?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2016, 11:51:07 PM »
As long as it has a rail there's no difference.
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Re: Difference?
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 12:27:25 AM »
Looking for a P-01 on Bud's, I saw the CZ 75 D Compact. What is the difference in these two guns? I couldn't find a visual one.
         
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You can't rely on the pics they post and they usually post a disclaimer about that. Google the CZ model number to find out for sure. There is a very limited number of steel framed compacts available right now. I call them SP01 compacts. They have steel frames with a rail like the P01, but instead of decockers they have ambi safeties. Sort of like the fabled Compact L models only with all steel frames. Ordered mine from AZGuns, but others have found them a bit cheaper on other sites.
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Re: Difference?
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2016, 08:36:00 AM »
Perhaps we need a diagram tree as the base CZ75 Compact is the root model and branches out from there.


CZ75 Compact    - normal safety, 9mm/40sw variants

CZ75 D Compact - decocker
 
CZ PCR               - decocker, LCI, draw sights, alloy frame

PO1                    - Decocker, alloy rail frame. 
......                   - P06 is 40sw version of PO1

PO7 Duty            - Composite rail frame, can convert safety to decocker,  9mm - 40sw variants

CZ75 Semi Compact - Compact slide on standard frame.

There are also Omega variants with options like ambi-levers.

As many parts are interchangeable, I've seen mixes of finish, slides, controls, composite, alloy, steel.
There have been limited runs as well as customs and bubbas out there, so you may just be able to get the version you want. The inox-ss looks to soon be on the market.

Members please update this If I missed variants and important options.
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Model #91199 vs #99003
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 01:53:52 PM »
So there's there's no difference what-so-ever between Model #91199 (P-01) and Model #99003 (D COMPACT w/ RAIL) except the P-01 is for the US market and D Compact w Rail is for Euro?  I don't see any difference in a google photo search except for obvious markings on the rail. Is the P-01 a newer model than the D Compact with Rail? If they're the same, why is there much more of a demand for the P-01? Thanks.

Here are the links to Bud's:

Model #91199  P-01 - https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/13658/CZ-USA+91199+CZ+P-01+14+1+9mm+3.8%22

Model #99003  D Compact with Rail - https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/407/products_id/719006242
 
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Re: Difference?
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2016, 09:25:39 AM »
Only other difference I see is the magazine bases - one is plastic, the other rubber. ( the rubber provide a much better grip -IMO)

Maybe the railed Compact D has been (is to be) replaced by the P01?
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Re: Difference?
« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2016, 11:16:18 AM »
Only other difference I see is the magazine bases - one is plastic, the other rubber. ( the rubber provide a much better grip -IMO)

Maybe the railed Compact D has been (is to be) replaced by the P01?

This is from CZUSA's FAQ.  It might help explain the variations:

Q: ?My buddy?s gun says PCR (or P-01) on the slide, but mine says 75 Compact D. What gives??

A: The factory has multiple designations for the same model, depending on where it?s intended to be sold in the world. High demand here in the US means we?ll take any overruns from other markets we can get our hands on. They might have different markings on them, but they?re the same gun.

 

Q: ?My trigger/mag base/barrel finish/etc. doesn?t look like your pictures. Why the change??

A: Our factory is constantly making changes and improvements to the product, some visible, some not. Each year we make an effort to update the pictures of any products that may have experienced a visual change, but we don?t always catch them all. The factory reserves the right to change any product at any time. If it differs substantially from our yearly catalog, we usually make a separate part number for it to differentiate it. If the difference is small, such as a change in the trigger face or a mag base, it may not warrant a new part number and the pictures in our catalog and/or website might not reflect the change.

Bottom line is that the specifications are what are most important. So long as the gun still conforms to the specifications for the particular model, it still falls under that model number.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2016, 12:31:23 AM »
Thanks. Which one has the plastic mag base and which one has the rubber mag base? The P-01 has a thicker mag base. Leads me to ask if both have plastic grips instead of rubber?

The Just wondering because the P-01 is EXTREMELY hard to find in stock (as is the PCR) but the Railed D Compact seems to be always in stock.  My instinct is telling me that the P-01 is more desirable. Still don't know for sure.

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Re: Difference?
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2016, 02:26:35 AM »
Thanks. Which one has the plastic mag base and which one has the rubber mag base? The P-01 has a thicker mag base. Leads me to ask if both have plastic grips instead of rubber?

The Just wondering because the P-01 is EXTREMELY hard to find in stock (as is the PCR) but the Railed D Compact seems to be always in stock.  My instinct is telling me that the P-01 is more desirable. Still don't know for sure.

Other than the barrel color and no NSN number the railed "75D Compact" models I saw at the gun show were exactly the same as my P-01, rubber mag base, rubber grips and all.