Difference?

[452pcr]

The PO1 pictured has the plastic mag base - note thickness is the same front to back - and the sharp bevel on the front.  The grips are rubber.

The Compact D has the same rubber grips, but notice the mag base is wedge shaped with a gentler curve bevel at the front.

These were the extra mags I purchased with my PCR and the rubber base really improves the grip - for my hands. 
The original steel bases on the two that came with my PCR are being replaced.


I noticed the description text said the Compact D has an alloy frame, yet the features list says steel. That may be another subtle difference as more of the Compact D may have steel rail-frames.

[john seeley]

A reviewer at https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/407/products_id/719006242 (Railed Compact D) said the frame is alloy (and the grips are rubber) despite the it's conflicting description.

So it looks like the ONLY difference between the P-01 and Railed D Compact COULD BE the mag base. The Railed D Compact has a thicker rubber mag base (as per 452pcr) ALTHOUGH I have seen online photos of the P-01 with the thicker base, ex: http://themarksman.net/shop/image/cache/data/New%20Guns/Handguns/Pistols/CZ/91199%20Left-1000x800.jpg   and   https://www.gunsamerica.com/991524784/CZ-75-PO1-9MM-3-7-9-MM-BLK-2-14RD-STEEL-91199.htm

The price for the Railed D Compact at Buds just jumped a few days ago from $557.00/$573.71 to $568.00/$585.04. Looks like they're taking advantage since the P-01 has been out of stock. Are there any other reputable online sellers priced better than Buds? Thx.

(Looks like the PCR has the silver barrel unlike the two RAILED CZ Compacts. (D Compact and P-01))

If I don't see the PCR in stock in the next few days, I'm gonna get the railed D Compact although I think the PCR is slightly a more evolved gun even if it doesn't have a rail. (The PCR has the snag free rear sight, Chamber Indicator, and smaller rail release lever although the mags are all steel now - no mag base)

[Bret]

You can't rely on the pics they post and they usually post a disclaimer about that. Google the CZ model number to find out for sure.

Bud's is so bad about their pictures, I think someone must get paid to put the wrong ones up.

The price for the Railed D Compact at Buds just jumped a few days ago from $557.00/$573.71 to $568.00/$585.04. Looks like they're taking advantage since the P-01 has been out of stock. Are there any other reputable online sellers priced better than Buds?

Certainly, but none have the P-01 in stock.  You might try GunBroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Semi-Auto-Pistols/BI.aspx?Keywords=p-01
BTW, Bud's is very slow right now.  It recently took them ten days from the time they took the money out of my checking account to ship a pistol to me.  Grabagun recently shipped on the next day.

[john seeley]

Thanks Bret. Since the P-01 and PCR are hard to find or out of stock.

Aside from the CZ 75 D Compact (rail) which is really no difference from the P-01, would you ever consider the:

CZ 75 Compact Safety version (no rail) A lot of difference from the PCR. Unlike the PCR, this has a steel frame, plastic grips, no chamber notifier, no lanyard loop and no snag free rear sights and and top slide is contoured at the front.

Thanks for the store suggestions. An ACH transfer from your bank should only take 3-4 business days.

[Bret]

would you ever consider the:

CZ 75 Compact Safety version (no rail) A lot of difference from the PCR. Unlike the PCR, this has a steel frame, plastic grips, no chamber notifier, no lanyard loop and no snag free rear sights and and top slide is contoured at the front.

I have about ten different CZ 75 Compact variants and they all have the manual safeties.  This is just because I prefer a manual safety and single action first shot over a double action first shot.  The regular steel framed CZ75 Compact was my first.  I bought it used, but in like-new condition.  When I shot it I found out why the previous owner sold it.  The recoil was sharp and brutal.  I bought a 22Lb recoil spring and it shot like a completely different pistol.  From there the addiction grew.  So, to answer your question "would you ever consider", the obvious answer is yes.  But, I don't want to make any assumptions about how you'll use the pistol.  Do you want it for concealed carry, home defense, range use or all of the above?  As much as I love the CZ75 Compact, I don't carry one because it's heavy and wide.  I do have some aluminum framed CZ75 Compacts, but they're even a bit wider, though lighter.  If I was going to carry a CZ75 Compact type pistol, it would actually be the Canik C100.  It has an aluminum frame, but unlike the CZ's, the aluminum frame is not wider than the steel version.  Based on the two that I have, I think the quality is every bit as good.  I guess the Canik doesn't have the panache that the CZ has, but that goes out the window for me when it comes to carrying a pistol (FYI, I typically carry a S&W Shield).  The SAR B6P Compact is also a great pistol (with sights better than CZ and Canik), but it's polymer frame is wide like the aluminum framed CZ's.

[john seeley]

Thanks so much. I would use it for home defense and obviously ranges. Here in NJ, a permit to carry is almost impossible so, I'm not going to carry. Maybe railed D compact will suffice for home defense because I can use a flashlight with it? (In NJ, it's 15 rounds max.)

Everyone talks about the addiction. One FFL put it: "after you get the first one, you'll want others because they're like eating potato chips". 

Thanks for your input. Did you ever hear of Tombstone tactical? Any experience with them?

[Bret]

I think that I purchased from them once, but I don't remember.  That's a good thing though.  I typically remember the bad things that happen.

[john seeley]

Thanks. Tombstone has the 99003 Railed D Compact for $560 plus $5.05 for optional insurance and free shipping. Says they have 317 in stock... hard to believe. Maybe their distributor has 317. Bud's credit card price of $585.

EDIT:  resellerratings.com rates Tombstone as 6.1 out of 10.  They rate Buds a 9.29 out of 10.
           I tried calling Tombstone Tactical twice during business hours and could not get a human being.

[goforbroke]

Thanks. Tombstone has the 99003 Railed D Compact for $560 plus $5.05 for optional insurance and free shipping. Says they have 317 in stock... hard to believe. Maybe their distributor has 317. Bud's credit card price of $585.

EDIT:  resellerratings.com rates Tombstone as 6.1 out of 10.  They rate Buds a 9.29 out of 10.
           I tried calling Tombstone Tactical twice during business hours and could not get a human being.

I  just purchased that model (99003) from Tombstone Tactical this week, just waiting for it to arrive.
My LGS actually has a CZ P-01 in stock, but they want too much for it, so I bought the CZ 75D compact instead.

[john seeley]

Thanks. Tombstone has the 99003 Railed D Compact for $560 plus $5.05 for optional insurance and free shipping. Says they have 317 in stock... hard to believe. Maybe their distributor has 317. Bud's credit card price of $585.

EDIT:  resellerratings.com rates Tombstone as 6.1 out of 10.  They rate Buds a 9.29 out of 10.
           I tried calling Tombstone Tactical twice during business hours and could not get a human being.

I  just purchased that model (99003) from Tombstone Tactical this week, just waiting for it to arrive.
My LGS actually has a CZ P-01 in stock, but they want too much for it, so I bought the CZ 75D compact instead.

Nice and free shipping too! And no difference from the P-01. Just spoke to Tombstone and they said they drop-ship them and should only take a few days to ship. Did you ever shop at Tombstone before?  If so, what do you think of them? I may go for it as well OR, I may go for the limited-quantity all-steel railed "SP-01 Compact" as shown on two other threads. I'm waiting for more use experiences on the "SP-01 Compact".

TO ADD: Yesterday morning, I ordered the PCR from Bud's (CC price $591.22) because they must have had just 1 in stock. After I placed my order, I started having 2nd doubts because the 99003 started growing on me for home defense (because I can't carry in NJ). And about 30 minutes later, Bud's called me and said it wasn't in stock and someone beat me to it. Whatever Put a bad taste in my mouth about Buds since I never used them pior. But just as well because now my heart is set on the 99003 or this "SP-01 Compact". I'm leaning towards the 99003 though.

[Bret]

EDIT:  resellerratings.com rates Tombstone as 6.1 out of 10.  They rate Buds a 9.29 out of 10.
           I tried calling Tombstone Tactical twice during business hours and could not get a human being.

Resellerratings.com is not reliable because some businesses solicit feedback to the resellerratings.com website while others don't.  Bud's does which drives up their ratings relative to others that don't.  grabagun.com has a 4.59 rating and they don't solicit feedback to resellerratings.com.  Based on having numerous transactions with both, there's no way that Bud's has better overall service than grabagun.

[john seeley]

EDIT:  resellerratings.com rates Tombstone as 6.1 out of 10.  They rate Buds a 9.29 out of 10.
           I tried calling Tombstone Tactical twice during business hours and could not get a human being.

Resellerratings.com is not reliable because some businesses solicit feedback to the resellerratings.com website while others don't.  Bud's does which drives up their ratings relative to others that don't.  grabagun.com has a 4.59 rating and they don't solicit feedback to resellerratings.com.  Based on having numerous transactions with both, there's no way that Bud's has better overall service than grabagun.

Thanks, Bret. You're right about the seller feedback. They make deals with bad reviewers to falsely drive up the score. Did not take that into consideration.

Bret, did you order the limited quantity "SP-01 Compact"? Just curious what you felt about it.

[Bret]

I ordered one from mrgundealer.com about a week ago and have not heard anything since.  Some sort of encouragement email would be nice.   I didn't buy it because it has a practical use for me.  I just bought it because I'm a CZ collecting whore and it's a very limited edition.

[john seeley]

I ordered one from mrgundealer.com about a week ago and have not heard anything since.  Some sort of encouragement email would be nice.   I didn't buy it because it has a practical use for me.  I just bought it because I'm a CZ collecting whore and it's a very limited edition.

Limited edition is right.

Ended up getting the PCR after all. Couldn't resist the price. They had one left on Grab-A-Gun for $535.30 w/ 5.99 shipping. I called and spoke with Dave who was very pleasant and he confirmed that my order did indeed go through. Should be at my FFL by Mon/Tues.  Oh well. Maybe my next gun will be a Railed CZ Compact if they're as addictive as you say. LOL  Please let us know how you like the "SP-01 Compact'.

[Rkangel]

I ordered one from mrgundealer.com about a week ago and have not heard anything since.  Some sort of encouragement email would be nice.   I didn't buy it because it has a practical use for me.  I just bought it because I'm a CZ collecting whore and it's a very limited edition.

Limited edition is right.

Ended up getting the PCR after all. Couldn't resist the price. They had one left on Grab-A-Gun for $535.30 w/ 5.99 shipping. I called and spoke with Dave who was very pleasant and he confirmed that my order did indeed go through. Should be at my FFL by Mon/Tues.  Oh well. Maybe my next gun will be a Railed CZ Compact if they're as addictive as you say. LOL  Please let us know how you like the "SP-01 Compact'.

Congrats, You're getting a very good pistol.