Military Arms Channel...new Polymer CZ, It's here! The CZ10

[brianjkeene]

Specs very similar to the G19, should be a winner.

Yep, looks to slot in between a g19 and p07 in size - which should be good enough. I used to carry a g19 but now carry a p320 compact and I can tell a difference in carrying it vs the 19 but it's not a huge difference and I've adjusted well. I expect the p10 should be mostly just as concealable and comfy as the 19. I do love my p320 though and it will be hard to switch away from it. The p320 full size has a ton of potential as a comp gun too.

[Firemanjones]

P99 was very unique for a striker fired gun, true da/sa with a de-cocker. It has a very nice trigger as well, think da/sa version of the PPQ. It was my first pistol, guess I have a soft spot.

The P99 was introduced in the 90's ans the PPQ sometime in the 2000's.
It has 3 triggers in one. The following is from the Walther forum written by imaoldfat.

Walther P99 Trigger Systems

AS: Anti-Stress
Affected Models: Classic P99 / P99 AS / P99c AS
Trigger Travel: 0.55? Double Action & AS / 0.31? Single Action
Trigger Reset: 0.25?
Trigger Weight: 11 lbs. Double Action / 5 lbs. Single Action

The P99 AS is basically a hammerless Traditional Double Action pistol, which happens to be striker fired. The largest confusion in the trigger system is the AS mode itself, and with out that variable, the pistol would have a similar trigger action to a Sig Sauer or a Heckler and Koch.

The AS trigger system of the Walther P99 has three possible carry modes:

AS Mode
The AS mode is automatically engage after a round is chambered. The trigger is fully forward, as if in double action, but the striker indicator is to the rear and visible. This mode offers the safety of carrying the P99 AS in single action with a light yet long trigger pull.

DA Mode
The Double Action mode is achieved after a round is chambered and the decocking button is depressed, releasing the striker into a double action trigger pull. In this mode the trigger is fully forward and the striker is at rest and no longer visible to the rear of the slide. After the trigger is first pulled, all subsequent shots will be in single action. This mode is considered, among fellow P99 AS owners, to be the safest mode to carry the AS in.

SA Mode
The SA mode of carry for the P99 AS is Single Action. This mode can be achieved by chambering a round, which also places the trigger all the way forward and into the AS mode, then slowly pulling the trigger to the rear until you hear the SA portion of the sear engage. You?ll hear a ?click? and the trigger will remain in this rearward (actually middle/center) position. This mode will also automatically engage after the first trigger pull in double action mode.

[Earl Keese]

For some reason people are confused by the P99 trigger system. My neighbor had one for 7 yrs and didn't know it had a de-cocker until I showed him. I have high hopes that the P-10 will be a poly/striker gun I can love. Considering all that it shares with the P-07, there's a pretty good chance. 

[eastman]

I'm fairly certain I'll be adding one to the demo kit once they become available.

[jameslovesjammie]

While I understand the reasons for the pistol, I still feel a little conflicted about it.

I've read all the posts, I've watched the video a few times.  There are two things that I really love about CZ pistols, and this gun did away with one of them.  The excellent ergonomics are still there.  To me, the hammer is the soul of CZ pistols.  The gun is a little bland, visually.  Bland is the striker-fired market.

I don't know.  Like I said, I just don't feel that excited about it.  It could be a fantastic gun, but it just doesn't "do it" for me.

[Joe Allen]

My take on it:

I've been desiring a poly pistol for some time to cut back on weight (EDC is a 75C).

While I carry C&L, I'm not against a striker fired pistol - my primary preference is that each trigger pull be the same and, preferably, good - which by all accounts the P-10's is.

Glock 19 is the ideal size, but the grip doesn't fit me. The closest thing to CZ's palm swell that I've found in a plastic gun is the M&P, but with that you're either stuck with full size or the (to my mind) too small Compact.

I'm pretty excited about it, myself. I'd been pretty close to giving the M&P a shot as a carry gun, but this one is a lock.

I would like it if it took existing P-07 magazines, but I'd like it even more if there were Mec Gar mags available. Maybe now there will be.

Sights are another issue. It looks like they may be the same cuts as the P-07. I definitely need some type of good night sights on a carry gun, and I've recently discovered the Truglo TFX on one of my 75s. Best all around sights I've ever used. Unfortunately, they don't yet make those for the polymer CZs. I'm pretty confident that Mepro or something will be available in short order, though.

[milq]

I'm interested. The apparent palm swell is (hopefully) what I was missing with the P-07 that I sold.
Of course, the next question is: will they carry said palm swell over to the next gen P-07 and 09?

[Majin]

Is the detail stripping will be as simple as the Glock pistol?

[Majin]

Is the detail stripping will be as simple as the Glock pistol? Or it is also an omega system?

[RenegadeDave]

I'm not super interested in buying one, but I'd be open to winning one at a match and then not selling it.  That said, I'm all for CZ having huge success with this so they can expand their lines and get me more of he guns I am interested in.

That said, it seems like they accurately set out to make a successful striker gun.
- Use Glock Holsters
- better trigger than PPQ
- Excellent ergos
- Slide on Frame, not slide in frame (big criticism of folks who wouldn't buy CZ's anyway)
- Full Ambi (that's all the rage now, not sure why.  Seems more a liability than a feature to me anyways, if I was a lefty I wouldn't say that I'm sure)
- Super low bore axis, nearly Steyr territory. 

Now they will bring in like 50 a quarter and we can all fight over them I guess.

[rch024]

I'm not super interested in buying one, but I'd be open to winning one at a match and then not selling it.  That said, I'm all for CZ having huge success with this so they can expand their lines and get me more of he guns I am interested in.

That said, it seems like they accurately set out to make a successful striker gun.
- Use Glock Holsters
- better trigger than PPQ
- Excellent ergos
- Slide on Frame, not slide in frame (big criticism of folks who wouldn't buy CZ's anyway)
- Full Ambi (that's all the rage now, not sure why.  Seems more a liability than a feature to me anyways, if I was a lefty I wouldn't say that I'm sure)
- Super low bore axis, nearly Steyr territory. 

Now they will bring in like 50 a quarter and we can all fight over them I guess.

Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that it only fits in some of the leather Glock 19 holsters out there. All of my holsters are kydex anyways. The ambi is cool for lefties, and it's a popular design requirement for new military contracts. I hope it lives up to our expectations, but only time will tell. Either way I'll be buying the first one I can get my hands on!

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[brianjkeene]

I'm not super interested in buying one, but I'd be open to winning one at a match and then not selling it.  That said, I'm all for CZ having huge success with this so they can expand their lines and get me more of he guns I am interested in.

That said, it seems like they accurately set out to make a successful striker gun.
- Use Glock Holsters
- better trigger than PPQ
- Excellent ergos
- Slide on Frame, not slide in frame (big criticism of folks who wouldn't buy CZ's anyway)
- Full Ambi (that's all the rage now, not sure why.  Seems more a liability than a feature to me anyways, if I was a lefty I wouldn't say that I'm sure)
- Super low bore axis, nearly Steyr territory. 

Now they will bring in like 50 a quarter and we can all fight over them I guess.

Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that it only fits in some of the leather Glock 19 holsters out there. All of my holsters are kydex anyways. The ambi is cool for lefties, and it's a popular design requirement for new military contracts. I hope it lives up to our expectations, but only time will tell. Either way I'll be buying the first one I can get my hands on!

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I asked CZ specifically and they say it will fit in G19 Kydex and retention holsters. Seems crazy but apparently they designed it from the get go to be this way and I'm sure they have tested plenty of g19 holsters before making these statements. See the bottom of my screen shot.

[rch024]

I'm not super interested in buying one, but I'd be open to winning one at a match and then not selling it.  That said, I'm all for CZ having huge success with this so they can expand their lines and get me more of he guns I am interested in.

That said, it seems like they accurately set out to make a successful striker gun.
- Use Glock Holsters
- better trigger than PPQ
- Excellent ergos
- Slide on Frame, not slide in frame (big criticism of folks who wouldn't buy CZ's anyway)
- Full Ambi (that's all the rage now, not sure why.  Seems more a liability than a feature to me anyways, if I was a lefty I wouldn't say that I'm sure)
- Super low bore axis, nearly Steyr territory. 

Now they will bring in like 50 a quarter and we can all fight over them I guess.

Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that it only fits in some of the leather Glock 19 holsters out there. All of my holsters are kydex anyways. The ambi is cool for lefties, and it's a popular design requirement for new military contracts. I hope it lives up to our expectations, but only time will tell. Either way I'll be buying the first one I can get my hands on!

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I asked CZ specifically and they say it will fit in G19 Kydex and retention holsters. Seems crazy but apparently they designed it from the get go to be this way and I'm sure they have tested plenty of g19 holsters before making these statements. See the bottom of my screen shot.

Oh wow! Well that's a huge plus for me, then! Obviously I'd want to train with a new pistol before carrying it, and custom kydex ain't cheap. Thanks, Brian!

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[Louiczana]

While I understand the reasons for the pistol, I still feel a little conflicted about it.

I've read all the posts, I've watched the video a few times.  There are two things that I really love about CZ pistols, and this gun did away with one of them.  The excellent ergonomics are still there.  To me, the hammer is the soul of CZ pistols.  The gun is a little bland, visually.  Bland is the striker-fired market.

I don't know.  Like I said, I just don't feel that excited about it.  It could be a fantastic gun, but it just doesn't "do it" for me.

Feel the same way. Something's just not doing it for me. Just not feeling it.

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[jeffhughes]

I think the idea of using the G19 holster is brilliant.

If the trigger is as good as reported it will be a winner...