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Offline nicky

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #75 on: December 24, 2016, 04:30:00 AM »
Friend, as a seasoned handloader you should know that there should not be any distractions in the reloading room.  O0

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #76 on: December 24, 2016, 11:15:24 AM »
 Who says that he is reloading.

 And, I must say, for being married 35 years your wife looks great!
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #77 on: December 25, 2016, 09:17:53 AM »
I think she's on to me...
I kept dropping things on the floor.
But now she refuses to bend over and pick them up.

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2016, 09:24:47 AM »
The first of the parts showed up yesterday. I guess I'm committed !!

Due to interference with a wall-mounted cabinet, I'm already seeing that my shotgun press and Dillon will need to swap ends of the bench.

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #79 on: January 03, 2017, 06:19:03 PM »
The first of the parts showed up yesterday. I guess I'm committed !!

Due to interference with a wall-mounted cabinet, I'm already seeing that my shotgun press and Dillon will need to swap ends of the bench.

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2017, 08:28:46 AM »
You'd have to settle for pictures of a Strong Mount, because nothing else has showed up !
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2017, 12:40:12 PM »
Not even the P10 from jdoggggg?
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2017, 05:12:02 PM »
Hey I'd be willing to trade my new P10C for this new 650 reloading setup!  You could just have everything shipped my way instead.  Save everyone some money on shipping :).

I already have the strong mount anyways and I will even spring for the correct quick change plate :).  Done Deal?

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2017, 11:03:02 PM »
Hey I'd be willing to trade my new P10C for this new 650 reloading setup!  You could just have everything shipped my way instead.  Save everyone some money on shipping :).


What a deal ! But golly dang, look what showed up...



And of course, just in case I needed some 'pointers', one of these...



First thing I had to do was undo the 550. You can see that with the powder measure in place I couldn't get into the cabinet anyway...



So here's the 650 being installed on the other end of the bench. The bullet tray and the roller handle came off the 550 and got transferred over. This beast is REALLY tall...



And here it is all installed, with the Ponsness-Warren on the left (which thankfully clears the cabinet doors) and the 650 on the right...



I got the 9mm dies all set up in the new tool head and went ahead and, alternating between excitement overload and shear terror, loaded 50 rounds. The case feeder quietly cuts out the case handling motions and the spent primer handling is very effective.

I'm stumbling over timing the first and last cartridge case with the primer supply. Consequently, I had 2 cases come through with powder but no primer. I was also forced to refill the primer supply tube twice with unused primers from the "ski jump". But these things will get worked out.

The press is very smooth, and I didn't experience any powder jumping out, but of course I was running at one-quarter speed. The machine is quite complex (you'd have to be insane to buy one of these as your first reloading press), and I'm still having to watch several things on each stroke, but we're learning and happy with the purchase.

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #84 on: January 05, 2017, 09:02:17 AM »
Went from a Square Deal B to a 650 XL with a case feeder, took about 1000 to get all the bugs worked out and for me to be very comfortable.  Awesome purchase, well worth the time savings.

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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #85 on: January 05, 2017, 04:57:07 PM »
The press is very smooth, and I didn't experience any powder jumping out, but of course I was running at one-quarter speed.

Sounds like timing is good right out of the box.  Even at quarter speed, you would notice a major timing issue as a new case attempts to enter the shell plate at Station 1.  If timing is not close to perfect, the case gets there before the shell plate opening aligns.  The jolt happens when the case (that has been riding on the OD of the shell plate) snaps into shell plate opening.  {{Change calibers and you probably need to adjust timing to avoid}}

The machine is quite complex (you'd have to be insane to buy one of these as your first reloading press), and I'm still having to watch several things on each stroke, but we're learning and happy with the purchase.
OMG... I now have PROOF,,, in writing!..... I'm insane....
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #86 on: January 05, 2017, 06:12:46 PM »
The press is very smooth, and I didn't experience any powder jumping out, but of course I was running at one-quarter speed.

Sounds like timing is good right out of the box.  Even at quarter speed, you would notice a major timing issue as a new case attempts to enter the shell plate at Station 1.  If timing is not close to perfect, the case gets there before the shell plate opening aligns.  The jolt happens when the case (that has been riding on the OD of the shell plate) snaps into shell plate opening.  {{Change calibers and you probably need to adjust timing to avoid}}

The machine is quite complex (you'd have to be insane to buy one of these as your first reloading press), and I'm still having to watch several things on each stroke, but we're learning and happy with the purchase.
OMG... I now have PROOF,,, in writing!..... I'm insane....
Good thing Mr. W isn't a judge, or a 4473 would be tough to get through NICS.
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #87 on: January 05, 2017, 06:28:10 PM »

OMG... I now have PROOF,,, in writing!..... I'm insane....


Your certificate is in the mail !!   O0
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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #88 on: January 06, 2017, 04:45:41 AM »
Sounds like timing is good right out of the box.  Even at quarter speed, you would notice a major timing issue as a new case attempts to enter the shell plate at Station 1.  If timing is not close to perfect, the case gets there before the shell plate opening aligns.  The jolt happens when the case (that has been riding on the OD of the shell plate) snaps into shell plate opening.  {{Change calibers and you probably need to adjust timing to avoid}}

You may have some seriously wrong with your press.  What you're describing here is alien to me.  The jolt does happen when the openings on the shellplate arrive at their positions, but the jolt is from a spring-loaded detent ball bearing at station 4.  What you're describing shouldn't happen even with a timing error because the case isn't inserted all the way into its slot in the shellplate at Station 1.  They're inserted about 95% of the way, then they're put in that last 5% on the priming stroke, so even with bad timing, there should be no "snap" into place from the case.  It's not supposed to go all the way in.


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Re: Should I sell my Dillon 550B ??
« Reply #89 on: January 06, 2017, 05:09:11 PM »

You may have some seriously wrong with your press.  What you're describing here is alien to me. 

Nope.  This is a timing issue that involves the camming pin.  The nut to lock the pin in place can work loose (and did for me) and will create the issue I refer.

You can test this yourself (with an empty machine except a few cases to feed into Station 1) by loosening the nut and rotating the pin several times (to raise or lower the pin) and retighten the nut.  Run a few cycles and and you can create the case-riding-the-shellplate-OD scenario.  (Look for the case that gets there too early before the opening in the shell plate gets there...pretty impressive SNAP when they do align imo)
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