non Glock Roland special

[Yoni]

In some circles a highly modified  Glock 19 has become the newest rage. This consist of a Glock 19 with a RMR and a comp among other modifications.

Since a Glock is a pistol without class or soul, I would never build one of these.

However I got thinking that a P07, might make a great pistol for these modifications.

So has anyone built one"

http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/the-guns-network/the-roland-special-glock-19/

[s0nspark]

In some circles a highly modified  Glock 19 has become the newest rage. This consist of a Glock 19 with a RMR and a comp among other modifications.

Since a Glock is a pistol without class or soul, I would never build one of these.

However I got thinking that a P07, might make a great pistol for these modifications.

So has anyone built one"

http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/the-guns-network/the-roland-special-glock-19/

Does anyone make an aftermarket comp?

That is all I lack.

[Earl Keese]

http://shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=365

[s0nspark]

http://shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=365

Interesting... thanks!

[MisterMoad]

I've been thinking about this for a while now.
Every aftermarket comp I've run across doesn't fit the profile of the slide.
If CZC or CGW came up with a short, four port comp that followed the slide contour I'd buy in a heartbeat.
The closest thing I've seen is this modified Czechmate comp, but it's for a Czechmate, not a p-07 and it's way too long.

[LonChaney]

If someone made a slide contoured comp that made the comp/barrel the same length as an 09,  I'd seriously consider making an 07 Roland Special. Figure it would fit just right in an 09 holster.

[flattusmaximus78]

What kinda of actual benefit do you get from a compensator? A p09 has close to no muzzleflip as is. Also, you need a lighter recoil spring in order for it to run reliably?

[MisterMoad]

Think of it like a cary race gun.
I don't have any experience with the P-09, but it would still tame muzzle flip.
I can't comment on spring weight either, but that varies from weapon to weapon.

I've used the "Roland Special" config on a G19 and it's a completely different weapon with the comp and mrds.
I'd love to have the option run a comp on the P-07 that fit most holsters.

[s0nspark]

If someone made a slide contoured comp that made the comp/barrel the same length as an 09,  I'd seriously consider making an 07 Roland Special. Figure it would fit just right in an 09 holster.

I would be all over that!

[flattusmaximus78]

Think of it like a cary race gun.
I don't have any experience with the P-09, but it would still tame muzzle flip.
I can't comment on spring weight either, but that varies from weapon to weapon.

I've used the "Roland Special" config on a G19 and it's a completely different weapon with the comp and mrds.
I'd love to have the option run a comp on the P-07 that fit most holsters.

Thank you for the info! Only gun with less flip is a SP01. The P09 snaps quick, gives you the impression it is going to roll back, but stops before it does. An Sp01 simply does nothing unless you get the odd hot round in a box of ammo.

[coolcw1987]

When I first read Roland I was thinking 460 Rowland, I thought you were crazy talking about making a p07 version.

Looking at the site i realize it (and the Rowland kit) come in 9mm. But I dont see anything about the load they shoot with it.

Taken from  http://www.460rowland.com/product/compensated-glock-19-conversion/

"Johnny has developed a 9mm / 357 Magnum equivalent and we call it the .960 Rowland?. It will deliver a 115gr bullet downrange at 1600 ft/sec, and a 147gr bullet at over 1400 ft/second! Other loads will be developed in the future and velocities for these two loads will be increased as well." - See more at: http://www.460rowland.com/product/compensated-glock-19-conversion/#sthash.sxvFM0F2.dpuf

I dont see any load data in the first link, other than "full-power duty ammunition found on the commercial market" -Read more: http://www.gunsandammo.com/network-topics/the-guns-network/the-roland-special-glock-19/#ixzz4Tctg3s8X

Also, that "read more" thing is odd....

[M1A4ME]

I remember the first time we shot my P09 9MM.  We'd been shooting the M&P .357 SIG prior to the new P09.  When I was shooting the P09 I knew it was going off as I could hear the noise, sometimes see the brass, see the bullet holes in the target but the recoil was so light I was having to use the other three things to convince myself it was indeed going "bang".

I remember stopping several times during the first magazine and looking at the gun and my brother and we talked about (after he shot it) how light the recoil was.  I need to shoot that gun more.

[Yoni]

Roland Special, is not the same as a Rowland 960 or 460.

Roland Special from what I understand was created by ex and current Delta soldiers.

I think a P07 would make a super soft shooting pistol, I know it has it covered in the accuracy department.

[4Rescue]

I would love to have a comp for my P-07.  I've often thought of taking something like a Lone Wolf Square comp and just cutting it custom to match but I've got enough other things to do that I've never done it.  I do have one of their (Lone Wolf) comps for my 10mm G20's and just fiddling around with it it looks like you could match the slide contour at least enough to make it look semi-organic to the pistol.  Something fully custom would be awesome though too and I'm kinda surprised we haven't seen one yet for the P-09 at least.   

 Overall, I think the P-07 makes a GREAT analog for anything the Glock G19 is considered for.  My own P-07 took over from my G19 as my EDC pistol for ~90% of my carry needs.  I like the Omega trigger enough with a few very minor mods for a carry trigger and in SA mode it's still better then any striker-fired trigger out there IMO. 

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[bigfug]

Roland Special, is not the same as a Rowland 960 or 460.

Roland Special from what I understand was created by ex and current Delta soldiers.

I think a P07 would make a super soft shooting pistol, I know it has it covered in the accuracy department.

Named for Roland Deschain, the screen name of the guy who did it. Video of how it came to be, and a pretty good forum that discusses it as well. As far as work goes, I do believe Boresight Solutions is working on them now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfl9DupLLmw
https://primaryandsecondary.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-roland-special.827/