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Offline MisterMoad

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2016, 07:26:28 PM »
Thanks for the vid Bigfug.
Given that the P-07 has a soul, and is softer than a 19 to begin with, a Roland Special style 07 would be perfect.
I wonder if the P-07 will catch on enough to merit KKM or one of the other big barrel cos to start match barrel / comp production?
Hopefully CZC or CGW will get that ball rolling.

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2016, 05:42:12 AM »
I have been looking at photos of some of carry comps, some people have built. If someone would offer a P07 carry comp that had such fine work done on it where the comp and slide meet, I think they would sell a lot of them. The Roland Specials to me look like an add on with the comps while a carry comp done by top gunsmiths on the 1911 look like fine art.

Scroll down in the thread and you will see the great work on this 1911, the line between the comp and slide is almost not there.

http://ingunowners.com/forums/diamond-collision/377134-caspian-carry-comp-build.html

If we could get a comp that follows the great lines of the P07/09, and then matches up this fine. WOW!
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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2016, 12:30:15 PM »
I have been looking at photos of some of carry comps, some people have built. If someone would offer a P07 carry comp that had such fine work done on it where the comp and slide meet, I think they would sell a lot of them. The Roland Specials to me look like an add on with the comps while a carry comp done by top gunsmiths on the 1911 look like fine art.

Scroll down in the thread and you will see the great work on this 1911, the line between the comp and slide is almost not there.

http://ingunowners.com/forums/diamond-collision/377134-caspian-carry-comp-build.html

If we could get a comp that follows the great lines of the P07/09, and then matches up this fine. WOW!

That cary comp is a true work of art.
However, the price would be astronomical because each comp would have to be and fit and the slide would have to be fit as well.
It would be awesome to see someone do this with a CZ75.

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2016, 12:38:09 PM »
I understand the cost would be high. I think the KKM comps on the end of the Glocks look terrible. Not due to the workmenship of KKM, but do to the fact they just look added on.

I would love to have a comped P07 that was somewhere in the middle between the Glocks and the 1911, so you could be proud of it.

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2016, 03:50:28 PM »

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2016, 04:43:53 PM »
Could you take a P09 and port the last inch, or so, of the barrel and slide, while cutting the grip short (like some people do with Glocks) to give you the very nice looking slide/ported look with the shorter grip of a compact?

It would probably mean using a P07 hammer/spring and guide and hammer spring cap/lanyard ring due to the shorter grip frame length.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 04:31:31 AM »
At that point I think you'd be better off putting a P-09 top-end on the P-07 frame (not sure if this is as simple as it is with the SP-01/P-01... I don't have my P-09 handy to try it out with my P-07 currently) cause cutting into the grip and re-forming all the inherent pieces that support the main-spring/Strut/back-strap etc, while possible, probably isn't going to be terribly easy and has the potential to look like a complete mess and ruin a perfectly good P-07.   

I still think cutting down an existing comp like a Lone-Wolf is a better choice or just trying that Springer Precision comp (although it's fairly goofy looking IMO and whoever the designer was did some weird things to try and "match" the slide... poorly) on the P-07.   I'm guessing should work as the front slide dim's are identical as would be the threaded barrel etc.  My only concern would be slide timing with the shorter barrel/comp/recoil spring but that's all easily worked out. 

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 10:33:47 AM »
I was thinking about trying this comp from YHM. Needs a threaded barrel.  Might look cool on the P09.


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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 05:26:13 PM »
Some P-09s here with Springer Precision compensators:

http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=77684.0

http://shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=365



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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 08:18:04 PM »
A comp on a 9mm???  ???

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2017, 11:02:31 PM »
I use the springer comp with the standard recoil spring. Makes a noticeable difference in muzzle flip.

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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2017, 12:16:45 PM »
There is a new 1/2x28 "Micro Comp" that is becoming a popular option due to its compact size:



https://tbrci.com/product/glock-micro-comp/
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« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2017, 12:18:21 PM »
Also, a smaller "Glock 43 Comp" is available from the same company in 1/2 x 28:

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« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2017, 12:21:22 PM »
Lone Wolf also sells comps in a variety of calibers (9mm, 40S&W, 357SIG, 45ACP, 10mm, 460):



https://www.lonewolfdist.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=919522&CAT=233
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Re: non Glock Roland special
« Reply #29 on: January 27, 2017, 07:49:57 AM »
Question for you guys on the Springer Comp for the P09? 

Their website says:  "These compensators are specifically designed for the CZ P09/P07 factory extended threaded barrel and to work with factory ammunition and a reduced power recoil spring."

Do I need to run a reduced power recoil spring or am I ok with the factory spring?

I assume the Comp makes the pistol louder from the shooters perspective?  Much louder?