P-06 Discontinued for 2017

[handgun2]

well, was only gonna say one word.. but this has evolved a bit.. it was originally about PO6 discontinuation.  to that end 1 word: BOO

regarding .40 S&W,  really? you really believe dead end? no future? really?  I suspect IT and the core other calibers will continue along just fine!   I have never found anyone wanting to stand in front of a .22lr or even short,  let alone a .40 S&W., dang caliber has done just fine. Just like the others.

my .02 cents!
K in MI

[Earl Keese]

My 2012 P-06 made my 2015 P-01 feel sloppy in comparison. Now that I reload .40, its waning popularity is fine with me. When people try to sell P-06's, they price high claiming rarity only to find out the pool of buyers is very limited. I bought mine reluctantly, only to be very pleasantly surprised.

[JohnK1987]

No, the .40 is certainly not dead... not even with CZ. Every manufacturer makes multiple models in .40 still.

They still make the .40 in the TS, 75b, etc., and the new P-10c will be offered in .40 (12+1) too...

[handgun2]

I can tell you this. My PO6 is the gun that LED ME TO CZ! dang thing is just so super reliable.. and accurate to the core!  and did I say? it was my first centerfire handgun?  and now have many others.. and have used most others?  they don't compare.  this gun is/my carry gun.. and my son's, when I sold him. infact, he still wants it back over his Ruger CCW.. dang, great gun! done right!

my .02c
k in mi

[Sooltauq]

Bummer, my P-06 has become my fav, and I didn't see any great number of them lingering unsold -- in fact, none.

I also find it curious that they are getting rid of the P-06, but the new P-10C will come in 40S&P.

[Sunkist]

Getting back on track. My P-06 is every bit the gun my P229 Sig was and the .40 is a great caliber. I carry it with the Rami 8 round for a flush fit and my spare mags are the P-06 10 rounders. And, all my 12 round Mec-Gars slide in and work as advertised. 

[ernie_h]

Bummer, my P-06 has become my fav, and I didn't see any great number of them lingering unsold -- in fact, none.

I also find it curious that they are getting rid of the P-06, but the new P-10C will come in 40S&P.

+1?.but I'm constantly on the lookout for another just because it's a favorite of mine as well (mine was bought lightly used). P-10C??.zero interest in the 9, though I'm sure it's a fine firearm (I have enough Walther striker-fired 9's that I like)??.40??.maybe, just because it's a .40 and a CZ?.but put a P-06 next to it in the case and the latter is coming home with me [CZ?.how about throwing a few remaining new ones to the states?just give this thread a 'heads up' first 

[Sunkist]

http://s603.photobucket.com/user/sunkist357/media/3-CZ-P-06%20Carry.jpg.html
Here's a link to my P-06 carry set-up.

[Indy_Tim]

I really should have jumped on the P06 that a LGS had last summer when I had the chance.  In the last 14 months, I've added a 40P, P09, P07 and as of yesterday, a 75B all in .40 to the collection.  .40 is a fantastic round in the right gun.  I think the biggest issue with a .40 is that too many people judged them based on shooting a G27 or even a G23.  To me, in the right gun, a .40 has a really good feel.  In the wrong gun, it feels like holding onto the gun while someone tried to knock it out of your hand with a baseball bat.

[Stopsign32v]

The 10mm wasn't on my radar in 1993. I think there was the Bren 10 and Colt Delta Elite back then and they were beyond my budget. Neither one interested me then or now. I was looking at velocity mostly, not Ft/pounds. I zeroed in on the 155gr in the .40 at first for the over 1200fps Blue Dot load which was close to the 158gr .357 loads of the day. Now I shoot 165, 170 and 180gr loads, some hot, some not.

I'm still on the fence about .40 S&W and the only reason I haven't completely written it off is because of the numbers you say.

FBI asked several ER doctors about shooting victims and all say until they retrieve the bullets from the victims, they cannot tell a difference in the damage the bullet does to the body in either 9mm, 40, or 45... Makes you wonder 

[ernie_h]

.. I think the biggest issue with a .40 is that too many people judged them based on shooting a G27 or even a G23.  To me, in the right gun, a .40 has a really good feel.  In the wrong gun, it feels like holding onto the gun while someone tried to knock it out of your hand with a baseball bat.

I think to a large degree that's true. The first .40 I ever shot was when I 'tested' the used P06 I eventually bought. I was ready for the larger recoil and muzzle flip, etc., that is talked about regarding the .40?..just didn't happen, not that much different than my 9mm's. As you said, in the right gun, it does have a good feel (IMHO), and I've since acquired a few more .40's.

[Indy_Tim]

The 10mm wasn't on my radar in 1993. I think there was the Bren 10 and Colt Delta Elite back then and they were beyond my budget. Neither one interested me then or now. I was looking at velocity mostly, not Ft/pounds. I zeroed in on the 155gr in the .40 at first for the over 1200fps Blue Dot load which was close to the 158gr .357 loads of the day. Now I shoot 165, 170 and 180gr loads, some hot, some not.

I'm still on the fence about .40 S&W and the only reason I haven't completely written it off is because of the numbers you say.

FBI asked several ER doctors about shooting victims and all say until they retrieve the bullets from the victims, they cannot tell a difference in the damage the bullet does to the body in either 9mm, 40, or 45... Makes you wonder

I don't buy that.  The FBI seems to be pretty good at analysis and the idea that they'd ask ER doctors if they can tell the difference holds no water.  Maybe autopsy reports might be useful, but ER doctors rarely care what caliber did the damage that they are fixing.  It's a mess in a wound channel and an ER doctor would be focused on saving the life, not measuring the total damage volume.  A medical examiner might try to figure that out, but not an ER doctor.  If there is any truth to it, it might be when a doctor responds to the question of bullet expansion with an exasperated statement to the effect of 'I don't know, the dang things look all alike to me'.

[handgun2]

I will / can easily say: my CZ .40's are easy shooters for me.. (and they were my very FIRST handguns) I never experienced some of 'what' people report. again, seems ergonomics seems to mitigate recoil in a well built gun.

K in MI

[Sunkist]

Back in the day we talked about "one shot stopping power" The Gold standard was the 125gr .357 Mag hollow point. We didn't study wound channels, at least I didn't. State Troopers and the US Border Patrol had the most officer involved incidents and we were trying to mimic that power in an auto pistol. That's why the FBI chose the 180gr bullet at 980-1013fps as their load. I eventually went to that but the 155gr load was the first I loaded again because of my .357 experience. I believe their reason for switching back to 9mm was two-fold. 1. Many agents found the .40 to have too much recoil. 2. 9mm ammo is much better now then it was back at the time of the Miami incident along with greater mag capacity.

[Sooltauq]

Ditto this. The low bore axis and excellent ergonomics of CZs make a .40S&W feel in recoil like most 9mms. I really love my P-06 and am quite sad to see them discontinued.

FWIW, if somebody can take two rounds of two rounds of 180gr HP and still want my wallet, I'll hand it to them admiringly.

I will / can easily say: my CZ .40's are easy shooters for me.. (and they were my very FIRST handguns) I never experienced some of 'what' people report. again, seems ergonomics seems to mitigate recoil in a well built gun.

K in MI