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Offline Arachnid

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"drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« on: January 24, 2017, 01:25:00 AM »
Hadn't seen mention of this option before and didn't see them on the aftermarket parts list:

https://www.inleadwetrust.com/collections/cz-scorpion-evo-iii/products/cz-scorpion-evo-drop-in-replacement-barrel-assembly-with-3-lug-and-1-2-28tp

Landed on the site looking at their MPX barrels and saw the Scorpion offering ......

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 09:09:23 AM »
 ???
That costs twice as much as the cz custom barrel!
Costs more than half as much as my evo
Nice find, but no thanks
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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 09:23:14 AM »
I think the integrated 3-lug would be the big draw here.

I guess it would be a question of whether going adapterless is worth the extra money.

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 09:37:49 AM »
Looks to me that they used the cz custom barrel or otherwise they both are useing identical fluting.

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 09:49:47 AM »
I can see the appeal with the trilug/threaded muzzle. But $375? It would sell better if it were $300 or even $250. I wonder why they didn't cut the length by an inch so it wouldn't stick out so much. It looks like the same length as my factory barrel with the hk trilug adapter attached
« Last Edit: January 24, 2017, 09:52:26 AM by mursalot »
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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2017, 08:36:06 PM »
When you factor the labor cost involved in installing the cz custom barrel wouldnt this be about the same price

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 01:38:05 AM »
What labor?  Installation is unscrewing about 8 screws. 

This seems like a way to make the "poor man's HK" into an "upper middle class man's HK".
I'm glad we are seeing more barrels and stuff though.  The more the merrier.
(I like the 6.5" length since I still think we need m-lok handguards that are just 1" longer than the HBI-K...a VFG and finger-stop is awful tight on the current model.)

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2017, 10:26:34 AM »
That is a solid observation.  The reason for doing it in this fashion was to make the nut more easily accessible for the end user where they would not need special tools to remove it in the future.
When you factor the labor cost involved in installing the cz custom barrel wouldnt this be about the same price

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The barrel is far from cheap, even though we have lowered the cost.  This project was never one designed to sell a lot and is actually pretty specialized and definitely not for everyone.  It required a lot of custom components to make it work and as a result the price point went a little higher than originally anticipated. I still personally believe that is worth the price point for what it is but that is just my opinion and I am a bit biased.
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That costs twice as much as the cz custom barrel!
Costs more than half as much as my evo
Nice find, but no thanks

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2017, 10:31:02 AM »
That is a solid observation.  The reason for doing it in this fashion was to make the nut more easily accessible for the end user where they would not need special tools to remove it in the future.
When you factor the labor cost involved in installing the cz custom barrel wouldnt this be about the same price

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The barrel is far from cheap, even though we have lowered the cost.  This project was never one designed to sell a lot and is actually pretty specialized and definitely not for everyone.  It required a lot of custom components to make it work and as a result the price point went a little higher than originally anticipated. I still personally believe that is worth the price point for what it is but that is just my opinion and I am a bit biased.
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That costs twice as much as the cz custom barrel!
Costs more than half as much as my evo
Nice find, but no thanks

I'm sure you've thought of it already, but I wanted to mention it here anyways, but why not offer this as a build service to customers looking for a shorter barrel (K config is very popular right now) and build them as you get orders with a lead time of x days, weeks in your description.

I know that some may rather replace a barrel then have theirs chopped down and I don't think anyone else is making K length barrels right now.

Just food for thought.
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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2017, 10:32:50 AM »
Thank you for the input.  Standard style k length barrels are in the works now.  5.3" o.l. with a tri lug and 1/2 x 28 threads.

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2017, 05:14:16 PM »
Sweet!
Price drops are always nice to see! Thank you for chiming in and giving everyone some excellent info from behind the scenes
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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2017, 05:28:40 PM »
Thank you sir.  This is the best way to get it right in my opinion, customer feedback.  It's always good to hear from customers in their reviews, wants, needs and evaluations.  We try our best to get it right the first time and offer products people would like to own but sometimes it just isn't so and this feedback only helps us get better

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2017, 10:07:16 PM »
Expensive, but nice. Won't work for me, though, as I'm SBRing a Scorpion Carbine. Decided to go with an HBI free-float handguard so I can remove it and attache my 3-Lug to the end of the barrel. Don't need the barrel nut any more, either. I'd say my new handguard, plus a CZ pistol length barrel threaded in 1/2 x 28 will come in near the price of that fluted barrel, plus I never need to worry about a barrel nut again

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2017, 10:14:34 PM »
Thank you for the input.  Standard style k length barrels are in the works now.  5.3" o.l. with a tri lug and 1/2 x 28 threads.

I'm loving the integrated 3-lug concept. Do you have any installed pics of your barrels w/integrated 3-lug mount so we can get an idea of what's sticking out past the handguard? Also, can you please clarify what you mean by "standard style" K length? I'm confused on the "standard" reference.

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Re: "drop in" replacement barrel with 3-lug and 1/2-28
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2017, 10:20:24 PM »
Expensive, but nice. Won't work for me, though, as I'm SBRing a Scorpion Carbine. Decided to go with an HBI free-float handguard so I can remove it and attache my 3-Lug to the end of the barrel. Don't need the barrel nut any more, either. I'd say my new handguard, plus a CZ pistol length barrel threaded in 1/2 x 28 will come in near the price of that fluted barrel, plus I never need to worry about a barrel nut again

Why wouldn't it work for you? You could just leave the barrel nut off.