Bought a very strange CZ27. All marking removed.

[ethangsmith]

I bought a very odd CZ27 and I'm looking for help. I posted in other forums with little progress. Note that the slide is milled down and all markings are removed. The serial number is all that remains. About 2mm of material has been removed- enough for the extractor spring to be able to be seen. The frame appears to be mostly original with a very odd marking (Possibly a destroyed Nazi mark) under the ejection port area. Serial numbers match. And per this website: http://www.p38guns.com/CZ27.htm the frame should in fact be phosphate, which it is. The slide is also a plum European bluing and looks very well done. No dirt or imperfections. What the heck happened to this gun?!?!?!

Pictures:

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/bluecapriethan/IMG_2678_zps44oxoskn.jpg

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/bluecapriethan/IMG_2676_zps4aioqwv4.jpg

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/bluecapriethan/IMG_2675_zpskya767em.jpg

http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p696/bluecapriethan/IMG_2677_zpss4z8efg2.jpg

[Grendel]

You need to post the img links ending in jpg. Those links point to some forum you need a login to see.

[ethangsmith]

That should fix it.

[27swanted]

It's hard to say exactly what went on with your cz.  Especially with not being able to make out the serial number and the marks on the frame.  A better picture of the marks and a picture of the top of the slide would help.  The markings below the ejection port are well forward of were the German proof marks usually were.  It looks like the serial number is either 437,xxx or 477,xxx both of which should have had a slide that was marked FNH.  Later slides should have had KAL 7,65 on the left side.  Also you have the shortest slide serrations I've ever seen on a CZ-27 slide  It's also a little unusual to have CZ marked grips instead of blank ones on these serial numbers although those are easy to swap out.  Is the barrel marked in any way?  My best guess is that your cz was put together or repaired shortly after the Germans lost Czechoslovakia, probably with a new slide stamped with the serial number to match your frame.   

[ethangsmith]

The markings you can see in the photos are the only ones on the gun. The barrel has a Nazi stamp. Serial # is 437623, which matches the slide serial #. The top of the slide has also been milled and has no wording. The sides of the slide have been milled down, which is why there is no text (You can see a shadow of text on the left side), very shallow serrations, and the tip of the extractor spring is visible on the right side. The frame also appears to be milled in some dimensions as well. I tried to get a few more photos for you, but my camera is only so good. Hopefully this helps. The ugly marking on the frame may be a destroyed Nazi mark?

[27swanted]

I didn't understand earlier that the left side was also milled down.  For your serial number range the top shouldn't have any markings other than the serial number and a proof mark.  I've seen several slides with the top milled or filed down in various ways but not the left side.  I am by no means an expert on these things but the ugly markings on the frame don't match up with any wartime German proofs that I know of and they are in the wrong spot. 

I've seen guns with British import marks in about that area but they also had proofs in other spots.  Once you get outside the normal marks/configurations on these things it gets pretty hard to tell what was going on.  The fit and finish on yours is excellent for the serial number.  I would think that sometime after WWII yours was reworked and refinished.  Probably to get ride of as many of the German marks as possible.  As to who did it it's anyone guess.  Still its a very nice and interesting pistol and I hope you enjoy it.  I'm sorry that I can't be more helpful on identifying what went on.

[ethangsmith]

Thank you for the information. You've confirmed my suspicions that it may be a "sterilized" gun that had as many Nazi marks removed as possible. I'd be afraid of a home made job on it, but the plum color bluing on the slide and phosphate coating on the frame are identical to what was leaving the factory around the end of WWII. It's more of a conversation piece than anything!

[CToddUSAF]

Interestingly, I was searching for info on this CZ27 I’ve had for a few years and apparently I ended up with this exact pistol. Unless they marked multiple exactly the same. Even the sanitization/coverup marks are the same though. Did you ever dig up any more info on this one? I bought it from an FFL here in NC 3+ years back.

[ethangsmith]

I just replied to your email, but no, I did not get any conclusive answer.