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Offline SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #60 on: March 01, 2017, 06:22:30 PM »
I always carry a spare mag and a set of cuffs.
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Just curious about the cuffs. Are you in law enforcement?

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #61 on: March 01, 2017, 06:35:43 PM »
I always carry a spare mag and a set of cuffs.
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Just curious about the cuffs. Are you in law enforcement?
Yes. I train and highly recommend that my officers carry a set on them when they carry off duty. I was involved in one situation where a set would have been very handy, and a police response was delayed.

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #62 on: March 01, 2017, 06:40:52 PM »
I always carry a spare mag and a set of cuffs.
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Just curious about the cuffs. Are you in law enforcement?
Yes. I train and highly recommend that my officers carry a set on them when they carry off duty. I was involved in one situation where a set would have been very handy, and a police response was delayed.

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #63 on: March 01, 2017, 08:26:12 PM »
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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #64 on: March 01, 2017, 08:46:14 PM »
In the early 80's, when I worked that small department, my duty rig weight 13.5 lbs.  Didn't know that till I weighed it one night on a big digital scale.

Colt 1911 with 4 mags. in pouches, double handcuff case w/2 sets of handcuffs, radio, mace, the belt, holster, mag pouches, radio pouch, mace pouch, and four keepers to keep it lined up with my pants belt.  And two of those long heavy duty tie wrap  temporary/one use cuffs in the sweatband of my hat.  Never used those either, but I carried them, every day.  Only cuffed one guy in 4 years.  Never pulled the gun (1911) on anyone.  Old days, old ways.

Oh, you couldn't have paid me to carry a 9MM in those days.  Now I carry one fairly often.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #65 on: March 01, 2017, 09:26:28 PM »
Capacity is just another thing to argue about, like caliber wars.

It's really not, though.  No one argues that lower capacity is better.  The OP isn't even arguing that less is better.  He's justifying settling for less because he knows fewer rounds is worse.  And even though he offers reasons why the revolver is a good choice, the title of this thread tells us what the thread is really about.  If the people who start these threads didn't know their choice was questionable, there'd be no reason to start the thread to begin with.  ;)

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #66 on: March 01, 2017, 09:38:41 PM »
I agree that the thought itself is not argumentative but give it time it'll get there.

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #67 on: March 02, 2017, 12:09:15 AM »
Capacity is just another thing to argue about, like caliber wars.

It's really not, though.  No one argues that lower capacity is better.  The OP isn't even arguing that less is better.  He's justifying settling for less because he knows fewer rounds is worse.  And even though he offers reasons why the revolver is a good choice, the title of this thread tells us what the thread is really about.  If the people who start these threads didn't know their choice was questionable, there'd be no reason to start the thread to begin with.  ;)

Well I know the OP pretty well, so I think I can speak for him when saying.....he doesn't think a few rounds is "settling" or are "worse", or that the choice of less rounds is "questionable", its more about wanting to know why 16 rounds is enough,or is it......maybe 14 plus 2 extra mags of 14 each for 42 rounds is enough....or is it???  Maybe having something is really closest to a best answer.....in general, unique circumstances aside, what ever makes you "feel" safer is maybe the placebo we each want/need  ;)
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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #68 on: March 02, 2017, 05:28:09 AM »
I didn't think he was either. I was just giving my opinion on the subject and my experience  on these weapons forums. I'm sure if the OP can speak for himself.

I've  been carrying a sidearm professionally and as an civilian for over 30 years now and I've seen and heard this subject get contentious quite a bit. Just passing along my opinion. I think that's what these forums are for?

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #69 on: March 02, 2017, 07:24:51 AM »
*chuckling* Who was that masked man?
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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #70 on: March 02, 2017, 12:02:16 PM »
I like a semi over a revolver.  Sure the larger 16 rd mag is great, but the truth is................I hate cleaning revolvers!!
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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #71 on: April 08, 2017, 11:30:12 AM »
 Last year, I found myself with a single stack, sub-compact 9mm and really regretted not having my Glock 19.  The firearm was never presented in this neighborhood scenario. The police response was delayed.  Being honest, the distance between the suspect and myself was beyond my ability to be proficient with that handgun.  The man was arrested without incident but my Glock 19 (soon to add a P-07) is my carry gun.   

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #72 on: April 08, 2017, 08:29:05 PM »
Unfortunately, a lot of bad guys run in packs - and quite a few carry guns. I prefer to carry way more rounds than I might need, rather than end up needing more rounds and not have them.
If one avoids the bad side of town, one might not ever need any more than a few rounds. That's fine if you know where to avoid. But if in an unfamiliar town with vehicle issues requiring taking the first exit off the expressway, for example, one might not have any idea about the nature of the area. Also, I wonder where the thugs go for easy pickings when the pickings get slim on their home turf?

Also, nowadays gangs of people like to block the highway and they sometimes decide to mob the cars that stop for their shenanigans. If 6 or more thugs try to mob my car, I will want more than 6 or 7 (or even 10) rounds at my defense. I don't like the idea of having my head bashed in by a thrown concrete block (like that trucker during the LA riots) while I'm reloading my single stack pistol.

Yeah, odds are few of us will be faced with that scenario - but then again, someone, somewhere has been there and someone, somewhere will be there in the future.
Musashi:
- In all forms of strategy, it is necessary to maintain the combat stance in everyday life and to make your everyday stance your combat stance. (situational awareness).
- You can only fight the way you practice.
- If you do not control the enemy, the enemy will control you.

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #73 on: April 09, 2017, 05:34:15 PM »
Most bad guys run away once the shooting starts, and if you have a group of 6 or more try to mob my car shooting will be the last thing I'm doing. I'll be to busy driving over and thru them.

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Re: Large capacity vs Less capacity.....for a carry gun
« Reply #74 on: April 09, 2017, 10:51:38 PM »
In the end it's the fact you were carrying and gave yourself a chance, against what ever situation most people think will never happen to them.  For me personally I like capacity and the most gun I can conceal. So it's usually a full size service weapon or the p07 with the plus 2 bases. I do have my quirks though, mostly 9 on rare rare rare occasion a 45 never anything else. Firm believer in having more in the gun so if I have +2 extensions their in the gun not on my hip, I think the speed/tac reload is the biggest over hype nonsense and the way it is being taught is a great way to get dead


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