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Offline ireallydontknow

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CZ Compact Safety Issue
« on: February 23, 2017, 04:20:42 PM »
So I decided to pick up the CZ Compact w/ rail that I mentioned in another post. Got it for a great price off of Mrgundealer.com for $514 ($544 shipped). The gun shoots wonderfully, but I'm having a major issue when I draw the gun from its Alien Gear 3.0 holster. The safety will switch off during the draw stroke about 30% of the time. I can't be sure, but I think the safety also wiggles itself out of safe mode about halfway just from being in the holster. I think it's a combination of the holster backing being too "grippy" and the safety itself not having enough of a detent. I've also tried it in my Alien Gear 1.0 (the leather one), and the results are similar, but not as pronounced. The safety will not switch off entirely during the draw stroke, but it is noticeably moved out of position. It's still bad enough that it could throw me off if I ever needed to use it in a DGU.

I'm holding off on carrying this piece for now until I get it resolved. At this point, I'm honestly not sure if it is a holster issue or a gun issue. Open to any suggestions. I should also add that I have cleaned all the factory grease off so I don't think that is the problem.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2017, 05:26:11 PM »
I have tried lots holsters and have had the same problem.  Now I just carry hammer down.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2017, 05:31:13 PM »
I have tried lots holsters and have had the same problem.  Now I just carry hammer down.

The thing is that I have never had this issue with my TriStar T100. It has a manual safety as well, but unlike the CZ it is stiff. Also, when you say hammer down, do you mean half cock?

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2017, 05:51:15 PM »
First thing I would do is take out the safety and make sure the spring is there. The CZ safety is looser than say my 1911 but should still not wiggle loose. If the spring is there you may be able to stretch the spring to get you more pressure or buy a new spring.


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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2017, 06:14:25 PM »
First thing I would do is take out the safety and make sure the spring is there. The CZ safety is looser than say my 1911 but should still not wiggle loose. If the spring is there you may be able to stretch the spring to get you more pressure or buy a new spring.

The spring is there. I guess I meant to say that rubbing against the holster while I move around is causing the safety to switch off. It isn't just disengaging from inertia or anything. Also, a big part of the issue may be that the CZ has an ambi safety. It appears that my holster doesn't cover the entirety of the other side. I think I might look for a RH only safety.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2017, 06:38:18 PM »
www.dsperman.com is where you want to go. They have an extra power safety spring for the CZ's that gives a much more positive lock on the safety. I've got them in the 2 safety equipped CZ's that I own and they work very well.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2017, 07:15:30 PM »
www.dsperman.com is where you want to go. They have an extra power safety spring for the CZ's that gives a much more positive lock on the safety. I've got them in the 2 safety equipped CZ's that I own and they work very well.

Thanks. I'll look into that.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2017, 07:20:14 PM »
www.dsperman.com is where you want to go. They have an extra power safety spring for the CZ's that gives a much more positive lock on the safety. I've got them in the 2 safety equipped CZ's that I own and they work very well.

Nice .. do the CZ's use the same spring across different models? I would install it in my P07 and Compact.

I had an ambi safety on one of my all time favorite guns .. a Springfield TRP. I rode a motorcycle and my jacket being zippered up tight disengaged my safety. I uninstalled the ambi and have never had one on another gun ever. That was 12 years or so ago. My rocky came with an ambi and its supposed to be a feature .. I swapped it out for a single side within a week. YMMV

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2017, 07:21:28 PM »
I carry a Tri Star C100 in a Alien Gear 3.0 also.  Never had the problem of the safety moving to fire position during a draw.
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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2017, 07:54:50 PM »
I carry a Tri Star C100 in a Alien Gear 3.0 also.  Never had the problem of the safety moving to fire position during a draw.

Yeah, TriStar safeties are really stiff, and they have a very audible click. I'm thinking the issue with my CZ is that the spring is too weak, and the exposed right side lever isn't helping either. The holster that I got from AG was for the P01 which is why it doesn't cover the upper area.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2017, 09:01:14 PM »
www.dsperman.com is where you want to go. They have an extra power safety spring for the CZ's that gives a much more positive lock on the safety. I've got them in the 2 safety equipped CZ's that I own and they work very well.

Nice .. do the CZ's use the same spring across different models? I would install it in my P07 and Compact.

The extra power safety spring will work for all of the standard 75 series guns with safeties but the P-07 is different.
One of the guns I used the spring on is a 75B Compact the other is a 75B Retro.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2017, 09:47:09 PM »
I've not yet had that issue with my thumb safety Compacts (or the CZ 85).  I've got a couple drop leg holsters (nylon and kydex), some IWB (all kydex and combo leather/kydex) holsters.

I like the idea of the extra power safety spring though.  I don't find the safeties difficult to operate (1911 guy) but I'd like to see just how much these springs increase the force required to move the safety from one position to the other.

I'll save that link till they get their on line ordering system up and running.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2017, 10:28:59 PM »
I have tried lots holsters and have had the same problem.  Now I just carry hammer down.

The thing is that I have never had this issue with my TriStar T100. It has a manual safety as well, but unlike the CZ it is stiff. Also, when you say hammer down, do you mean half cock?

  Not half cocked, full hammer down

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2017, 11:32:17 PM »
I have tried lots holsters and have had the same problem.  Now I just carry hammer down.

The thing is that I have never had this issue with my TriStar T100. It has a manual safety as well, but unlike the CZ it is stiff. Also, when you say hammer down, do you mean half cock?

  Not half cocked, full hammer down

There's an official CZ response that I found suggesting half cock instead of fully decocking. At any rate, the decocker versions of these guns moves it to half cock as well.

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Re: CZ Compact Safety Issue
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2017, 04:47:48 AM »
I'll save that link till they get their on line ordering system up and running.

You can email them and tell them what you want. I ordered mine that way over a year ago, takes about a week to get them.