Critical Look at the Shadow 2

[Slavex]

Having watched the slides get made, they aren't an extrusion, at least not as of last summer. Bar stock.
The grips from a 75 will fit, but the Shadow 2 grips are different.
Looking forward to someone running a comp bushing in the guns

[andrew1220]

Having watched the slides get made, they aren't an extrusion, at least not as of last summer. Bar stock.
The grips from a 75 will fit, but the Shadow 2 grips are different.
Looking forward to someone running a comp bushing in the guns

You work at CZ? That's awesome.

[Slavex]

Hahahahaha, no, I don't work there, but I do visit a few times a year when I'm over there shooting. I was the first person allowed to take pics and post them of the robots in action, machining the frames and slides. The frames are lost wax cast and then machined the slides were just bar stock.

[andrew1220]

Hahahahaha, no, I don't work there, but I do visit a few times a year when I'm over there shooting. I was the first person allowed to take pics and post them of the robots in action, machining the frames and slides. The frames are lost wax cast and then machined the slides were just bar stock.

Haha thats great. I'd love to visit their facility. Only seen some short YouTube videos of their manufacturing process.

[schmeky]

Slavex,

That's excellent information, my second thought was lost wax casting, which produces a really good final surface texture.  Thanks for sharing. 

[Slavex]

Yeah that's the frames though. The slides were just square (or rectangular) bar stock of whatever specification they had.

[Peplow530]

Is the mag brake the same?

[coolbox]

Schmeky
Would the CGW bushing of exisitng SP01 family be usable as is? Or will there be a new version? As the barrel length is different on the Shadow 2.

[schmeky]

Mag guide is the same.

7510X fits and works perfectly with the longer S-2 barrel.  We have one in the shop we just did.  Has the potential to make the S-2 a tack driver.

[coolbox]

Mag guide is the same.

7510X fits and works perfectly with the longer S-2 barrel.  We have one in the shop we just did.  Has the potential to make the S-2 a tack driver.

Thank you schmeky.

[Grelber]

How long before CGW comes up with an upgrade plan for the S2

Or any person or business? Big fan of CGW but am also a big fan of CZC & the helpful unknown person(s) on the internet who has already crossed the bridge in front of me.

[SlvrDragon50]

How long before CGW comes up with an upgrade plan for the S2

Or any person or business? Big fan of CGW but am also a big fan of CZC & the helpful unknown person(s) on the internet who has already crossed the bridge in front of me.

The upgrade plan by Automatic Accuracy and CZC is pretty similar, and I wouldn't be surprised if CGW's is pretty similar too (though CGW has more parts like the bushing). 11# recoil, 13# main, polish, comp hammer, etc.

I'm personally going for 11# recoil + 11.5# main with a extended FP and 10X bushing. I'll add in the other parts later if I feel it really needs it.

[rhart]

I don't like the way the slide stop digs into my support hand. Does anyone know if there is any way to make a Rami slide stop work in the Shadow 2? It seems plenty long enough and it seems to lock in, but you can't rack the slide more than about a half-inch with the Rami slide stop in it. I can't figure out why unless the post is a bigger diameter and is binding in the peanut hole under the barrel? Or does it have to do with the short squared off post? Any enlightenment you can offer is appreciated.

I think I've answered my own question. I tested both slide stops in the peanut hole and both traveled freely along the length of the hole. However. the shorter posts are different lengths slightly which places the ledge outside of the groove in the slide when there's a mismatch and this causes the slide to bind upon attempting to rack.  But you more experienced guys probably already knew that.

So now I'm thinking of grinding off the little nubbin on the short slide stop post that rides in the slide. I suppose this will render the slide stop non-functional as far as locking back on the last round but, the question now is - will it damage my new S2?

[Scarlett Pistol]

I don't like the way the slide stop digs into my support hand. Does anyone know if there is any way to make a Rami slide stop work in the Shadow 2? It seems plenty long enough and it seems to lock in, but you can't rack the slide more than about a half-inch with the Rami slide stop in it. I can't figure out why unless the post is a bigger diameter and is binding in the peanut hole under the barrel? Or does it have to do with the short squared off post? Any enlightenment you can offer is appreciated.

I think I've answered my own question. I tested both slide stops in the peanut hole and both traveled freely along the length of the hole. However. the shorter posts are different lengths slightly which places the ledge outside of the groove in the slide when there's a mismatch and this causes the slide to bind upon attempting to rack.  But you more experienced guys probably already knew that.

So now I'm thinking of grinding off the little nubbin on the short slide stop post that rides in the slide. I suppose this will render the slide stop non-functional as far as locking back on the last round but, the question now is - will it damage my new S2?

Have you tried a P-01 or PCR slide stop? They should fit. The SP-01 Compact slide stop should fit as well. They may not dig into your support hand as much.

[rhart]

I don't like the way the slide stop digs into my support hand. Does anyone know if there is any way to make a Rami slide stop work in the Shadow 2? It seems plenty long enough and it seems to lock in, but you can't rack the slide more than about a half-inch with the Rami slide stop in it. I can't figure out why unless the post is a bigger diameter and is binding in the peanut hole under the barrel? Or does it have to do with the short squared off post? Any enlightenment you can offer is appreciated.

I think I've answered my own question. I tested both slide stops in the peanut hole and both traveled freely along the length of the hole. However. the shorter posts are different lengths slightly which places the ledge outside of the groove in the slide when there's a mismatch and this causes the slide to bind upon attempting to rack.  But you more experienced guys probably already knew that.

So now I'm thinking of grinding off the little nubbin on the short slide stop post that rides in the slide. I suppose this will render the slide stop non-functional as far as locking back on the last round but, the question now is - will it damage my new S2?

Have you tried a P-01 or PCR slide stop? They should fit. The SP-01 Compact slide stop should fit as well. They may not dig into your support hand as much.

The P01, SP01 Compact, and Shadow2 slide stops are all the same, that is they will interchange with each other, and they all dig into my hand. The P01 and Shadow2 are a little worse (sharper). I put a low profile Rami slide stop on my Shadow1 and solved the problem on that gun, but the Rami won't work in the P01, SP01C, or Shadow2.