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Which sights should I install to my "SP-01 Compact"?

TruGlo TFX
2 (10%)
TruGlo TFX Pro
8 (40%)
Dawson front fiber optic + black or adjustable rear
8 (40%)
Other
2 (10%)

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Voting closed: April 14, 2017, 10:12:44 PM

Author Topic: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?  (Read 3405 times)

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Offline TexanFX2

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Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« on: April 07, 2017, 10:12:44 PM »
This CZ75B Compact will replace my G19 w/TruGlo TFX as every day carry. Although I truly love how wonderful a small fiber optic is for target acquisition at the range, I am overly concerned I might be better off with night sights. Being my EDC, it will also be my night stand gun and will probably have an XC1 on its rail.

I am also on the fence with the same for my SP-01. I had plans for IDPA with it, but now that I have a Shadow, might consider waiting to see if I could use the S2 instead and probably install night sights as well, or should I go fiber optic + rear adjustable on that one?

I will appreciate any suggestions and recommendations.
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 10:46:52 PM »
Sights are subjective. 

I would recommend going with the sights that work "best for you" for that pistol's PRIMARY use.
For range and/or Comp.,  most competitors prefer the FO front and large blade black rear. 
An adjustable rear is handy when changing bullet weights or shooting at longer distances to adjust for elevation.


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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2017, 06:33:47 AM »
Annecdotal, but just ran across a couple of guys who carry SD guns with no front sight.  Used to be FO but broke off.  One was an XDS  In both their cases they said they didnt need a front sight for combat short distance shooting, anyway.  Whatever floats your boat.

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2017, 06:52:54 AM »
I have night sights on a few pistols and they work for their intended role as home protection guns. That said my PCR is my primary carry piece and I went with an fo front and black rear. I can pick up that front sight in day light far faster than the night sights..

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2017, 08:56:27 AM »
SI:

I can also pickup the front FO faster than night sights, but I fear being in a low light scenario where it is no use.
I have been trying to "convince" myself of the following but still not sure if it is a right approach:

a) Carry gun should be able to meet my intended criteria (Day/Night) - Therefore Night sights
b) Any other pistol, including competition, can be used during daylight

 Thanks for the feedback. Looks like decision may be far easier than expected
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 11:37:40 AM »
SI:

I can also pickup the front FO faster than night sights, but I fear being in a low light scenario where it is no use.
I have been trying to "convince" myself of the following but still not sure if it is a right approach:

a) Carry gun should be able to meet my intended criteria (Day/Night) - Therefore Night sights
b) Any other pistol, including competition, can be used during daylight

 Thanks for the feedback. Looks like decision may be far easier than expected

Food for thought:
If it's so dark out that only see the night sights, then really it's too dark to make a shot, because, you really can't see where/what you're shooting at. If you've got a light on the gun, then a FO will work. If you have a light on the gun with tritium night sights the minute you switch on the light, you'll no longer see the sights glowing, They'll just look black. FO will work with just a little bit of light, light from a streetlight, flashlight, etc is more than enough to see them. if you have pistols with either sights on them, maybe try them with/without light in a dark room, or with little light, that might help you decide. 
« Last Edit: April 08, 2017, 11:41:32 AM by badwrench »

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 06:16:47 PM »
Badwrench:

Interesting! Thanks for the post. I really didn't think that way. I actually have pistols with both TruGlo and Dawson FO and I will give it a try tonight. Hopefully my debate will finally be over.
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 11:30:05 PM »
OK - I performed the following test and here are the results:

G19 + TruGlo + Room Light = OK
G19 + TruGlo + Dark Room = OK
G19 + TruGlo + Dark Room + Rail Light = OK
G19 + TruGlo + Dark Room + Flashlight = OK
G19 + TruGlo + Dark Room + Street Light (Outdoor Scenario) = OK
G34 + Dawson Front FO / Black Rear + Room Light = Not visible
G34 + Dawson Front FO / Black Rear + Dark Room = Not visible
G34 + Dawson Front FO / Black Rear + Rail Light = Barely / If visible at all
G34 + Dawson Front FO / Black Rear + Flashlight = Visible when light angled appropriately. This will be unlikely in a defensive scenario
G34 + Dawson Front FO / Black Rear + Street Light (Outdoor Scenario) = Barely / If visible at all

I will be installing the TruGlo TFX Pro on my CZ75B Compact a.k.a SP-01 Compact for sure. Still not decided which route to go with the SP-01. We'll see. Thanks for opinions.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2017, 02:28:07 PM by TexanFX2 »
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2017, 11:59:28 PM »
Tex,  in your tests,  would you be able to see your TARGET across that room?
If yes,  then any sights that cover the target will work.
If NO,  the any sights that glow in the dark won't help at all and may be a distraction from target movement.
A light works either way.

Or maybe I'm up to late.

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2017, 10:36:48 AM »
Tex,  in your tests,  would you be able to see your TARGET across that room?
If yes,  then any sights that cover the target will work.
If NO,  the any sights that glow in the dark won't help at all and may be a distraction from target movement.
A light works either way.

Or maybe I'm up to late.

You're right, being able to see the sights is one thing, being able to see the sights, AND the target is another.

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2017, 10:37:52 AM »
Annecdotal, but just ran across a couple of guys who carry SD guns with no front sight.  Used to be FO but broke off.  One was an XDS  In both their cases they said they didnt need a front sight for combat short distance shooting, anyway.  Whatever floats your boat.

I wouldn't want those guys shooting at a bad guy standing close to me.
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2017, 12:46:12 PM »
Just curious if anyone is running a FO front with the stock rear on a P01 omega and what your thoughts are?
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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2017, 12:58:20 PM »
Of the currently available sights I have tried, I like the TFX Pro the best. I have found that judicious application of a black sharpie on the rear sight tubes will subdue them. Besides being a the TFX being a hybrid sight, I like that the front sight is less vulnerable to damage than other FO sights I have used.

Real-world shadowing comes into play in many defensive situations. Hallways, staircases, alleys, and parking garages are examples of scenarios where you may be able to clearly identify the threat, but your sights are not well-lit. When using a WML in total darkness, all I see on any sight is the shape, but between the orange outline front, tritium and FO, the TFX Pro does a pretty good job of helping in every other lighting situation.




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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2017, 01:34:17 PM »
Just curious if anyone is running a FO front with the stock rear on a P01 omega and what your thoughts are?


I had this configuration on my omega for a while with the black dots sharpied dark.  It was great for range use.  As I use the gun for carry, I put on a set of night sights.  They aren't ideal for range use but are a bit more versatile in a carry piece IMO.

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Re: Night Sights or Fiber Optic for EDC?
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2017, 08:08:58 PM »
Night sights.

And there are lots of situations where you don't have to have bright daylight conditions to identify a threat to you and yours.  Yes, I have lights on a couple/three pistols but batteries die, lights are electrical and electrical stuff malfunctions/breaks.
I just keep wasting time and money on other brands trying to find/make one shoot like my P07 and P09.  What is wrong with me?