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Offline armoredman

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 04:50:36 AM »
Considering what is taught in the Academy now and in annual refresher training, the new wave is slide stop - the thinking is to go over the top with the weak hand to release the slide on the fresh magazine. Personally I'm old school, and prefer a slide release I can work one thumbed. The P-10C slide stop seems deliberately designed to not be used as a slide release. It's very thin and the top of it is not angled/beveled/plateaued to allow for the downward motion of a thumb, except in dire circumstances. If you hit the slide stop during range here, the instructors get all unglued.  Considering I started shooting before many of them are bored, (and I outrank most of them), I smile and keep moving on. The theory was explained to me that continually forcing the slide stop down can eventually round out the notch on the slide so it won't hold it any more. They could not give me an estimate on how long it would take to do something like that, of course. I would like to see a slide release built instead of the slide stop - did you note in Cajun Gun Works subforum that they are looking into that thing right now?
I have heard it called a magazine catch before, but the speaker was much older than me, so that term might originate way back in the day. I agree that when I was learning to shoot the two controls were always known as slide release and magazine release.

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2017, 06:41:32 AM »
I guess my point is that it's repeatedly referred to as a defective part, when it appears to have been designed that way intentionally. I was trained to go over the top of the slide, so that is my habit. As for using the stop as a release one handed, if you don't have a second hand available to drop the slide, what did you use to insert a new magazine?

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2017, 07:01:50 AM »
There are a number of methods to one handed mag replacement. ;) Holster it was the first one I was taught.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2017, 07:38:13 AM »
The slide release on mine works just fine.  It was too stiff initially, but I polished it just a tad where it makes contact with the slide and then ran about 150 rounds through it.  It's now no different than any other pistol I own.  Personally, I think that it's a much better setup than I have on any of my Glocks, but I can see where folks that shoot CZs normally would find it to be a lot smaller than they are used to.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2017, 08:23:50 AM »
People that carry are likely to prefer the flat slide release.  People that think of the gun as a range or match gun will usually want big fat slide releases.  JB-Weld.   :) :)

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #35 on: June 02, 2017, 09:16:56 AM »
I love all the opinions from people who don't actually own a P10 and base all there so called observations on someone else's observations , thats pretty funny .
Now is the p 10 perfect ? Nope . Does it have some quirks ? yep . Is it one of the most accurate pistol i have ever shot out of the box for less than 500.00 ? Yep.
Am i going to work on it ? Yep . Everybody has an opinion to each there own .   
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Offline whrussell21

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #36 on: June 02, 2017, 10:03:07 AM »
I love all the opinions from people who don't actually own a P10 and base all there so called observations on someone else's observations , thats pretty funny .
Now is the p 10 perfect ? Nope . Does it have some quirks ? yep . Is it one of the most accurate pistol i have ever shot out of the box for less than 500.00 ? Yep.
Am i going to work on it ? Yep . Everybody has an opinion to each there own .

Pretty much every modern day firearm is more accurate than 99% of the shooters in the world can be. No one is denying it can shoot straight. I wouldn't buy a P10 because I thought it was accurate I would buy it because it's a reliable CCW option and currently in my eyes it's not as it's way to new and early but I'm sure CZ will work out the kinks. If I wanted to take price into account a Canik is the absolute best pistol for the money.
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Offline Joe L

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #37 on: June 02, 2017, 10:06:01 AM »
Is it one of the most accurate pistol i have ever shot out of the box for less than 500.00 ? Yep.
Am i going to work on it ? Yep.

I posted a video of me shooting a 2" group at 50 yards from a rest with the P-10C over on Sigforum and actually had a guy tell me that if I changed my grip up it would shoot a lot better.  I was polite in my response, but I wanted to unload on him, text-wise.

I had a comment on YouTube that the target and shooter weren't in the same frame, implying that I faked the whole deal.  I think I will refer him to the 200 yard videos.   

I had two comments commenting about the ugly Sugru on the grip panels.  They obviously are missing the great attribute of a plastic gun....plastic!!   :) :)

I haven't had so much fun with a new gun since the P-09 first came out. 

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Offline Scarlett Pistol

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #38 on: June 02, 2017, 11:35:58 AM »

I posted a video of me shooting a 2" group at 50 yards from a rest with the P-10C over on Sigforum and actually had a guy tell me that if I changed my grip up it would shoot a lot better.  I was polite in my response, but I wanted to unload on him, text-wise.


It's all about results. I would have kindly asked him to post a video of the grip modifications he was suggesting, along with him shooting <2" groups at 50 yards with a polymer pistol. Cough it up or shut up! I am getting less tolerant of idiots lately. Rest assured Joe, I would not dare give you tips on shooting bullseye!
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Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #39 on: June 02, 2017, 05:45:18 PM »
There are a number of methods to one handed mag replacement. ;) Holster it was the first one I was taught.
Well that makes sense. My fingers out paced my brain once again. 😀

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2017, 06:13:25 PM »
A respected and honest opinion, can't ask for more than that. I tip my hat to you sir for your honesty.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #41 on: June 02, 2017, 06:16:15 PM »
Don't you think it's a bit quick to be judging a gun this been out for 2 months to a gun that's been out for over two decades. Give the p10 20 years to fix any issues like we have all done with Glock, then and only then put them head to head. Jmho.

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #42 on: June 02, 2017, 06:24:10 PM »
Well put.

Offline Earl Keese

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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2017, 06:26:11 PM »
Don't you think it's a bit quick to be judging a gun this been out for 2 months to a gun that's been out for over two decades. Give the p10 20 years to fix any issues like we have all done with Glock, then and only then put them head to head. Jmho.
Lol, 20 plus years and Glock still hasn't fixed all of their issues.
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Re: Hickok45 review of the P-10c
« Reply #44 on: June 02, 2017, 06:28:52 PM »
And let me add, I like Glocks, but after a certain amount of time you have to come to your senses, they are not fixing the problems because they don't care. That's the whole reason I decided to switch to CZ.