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Offline Joe L

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What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« on: June 04, 2017, 05:01:20 PM »
I want a P-10L, a 5" version of the P-10, which will be a 4.5" version of the P-10C.  A P-10L with a red dot is, in my opinion, the only polymer pistol that has a chance of equaling my two P-09s as far as accuracy goes.  I'm already convinced I can live with a striker trigger pull, now that I have had some great results at 50 yards single hand standing with the P-10C carry gun. 

Of course, I could live with a P-09L or a P-11(?) just fine as well.   :) :)

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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2017, 05:26:51 PM »
I typically like full size or longer guns over their compact counterparts... but no way I would want to give up the hammer. I could live with DAO though :)
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2017, 10:14:24 PM »
Especially with production starting in the US next year, they should offer a long barrel P-10 and a single stack sub-compact to compete with the G43.
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 01:08:21 AM »
Living with a striker trigger and liking it over a hammer gun are two different things.

As a side note, I was talking with my Glock guru buddy today, asked him about them striker springs. He said that a 4.0 lb spring is as light as you can reliably go and that is using Federal primers.

Cant recall what you put in there, but it makes me wonder about what primers AA is using as well?

Think he said regular stuff would take a 5.5 lb spring as long as it was Merican made and not some hard Russian primer of something.

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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 06:41:00 AM »
...asked him about them striker springs. He said that a 4.0 lb spring is as light as you can reliably go and that is using Federal primers.
4.0 is the lightest Wolff makes for the Glock and that is what is in mine.  No problems.  If I have one misfire, I'll go to the 4.5.  Probably not going to happen with Atlanta Arms or Remington ammo.
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 09:43:38 AM »
Joe,

Instead of waiting for a P-09-L, you could get the threaded P-09. You get your threaded barrel and with a red dot the decrease in sight radius is a non-factor.

As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 10:02:50 AM »
Joe,

Instead of waiting for a P-09-L, you could get the threaded P-09. You get your threaded barrel and with a red dot the decrease in sight radius is a non-factor.

As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

The threaded P-09 barrel would help the barrel length, but what I really want is more weight up front. 
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2017, 11:36:40 AM »

The threaded P-09 barrel would help the barrel length, but what I really want is more weight up front.

Throw a comp on the end :)
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2017, 11:40:36 AM »
As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

Having used both milled and MOS-style RDS solutions I would say there is no substitute for milling.

Of course, I say that because I insist on being able to co-witness with irons and most of the MOS style solutions require adapter plates.
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2017, 02:24:03 PM »
As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

Having used both milled and MOS-style RDS solutions I would say there is no substitute for milling.

Of course, I say that because I insist on being able to co-witness with irons and most of the MOS style solutions require adapter plates.

Yup, I'm in the process of building my P '007'.  A threaded urban grey P-07, CZ Custom milled slide, Leupold DP Pro with their optional adjustable co-witness iron, and a tall front night sight, with Springer Comp on the barrel and Talon wrap on the grip. If it comes out the way I hope, I'll ditch my Glock 17 MOS and do a P '009' version.  O0
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2017, 02:30:31 PM »
As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

Having used both milled and MOS-style RDS solutions I would say there is no substitute for milling.

Of course, I say that because I insist on being able to co-witness with irons and most of the MOS style solutions require adapter plates.

Yup, I'm in the process of building my P '007'.  A threaded urban grey P-07, CZ Custom milled slide, Leupold DP Pro with their optional adjustable co-witness iron, and a tall front night sight, with Springer Comp on the barrel and Talon wrap on the grip. If it comes out the way I hope, I'll ditch my Glock 17 MOS and do a P '009' version.  O0

Have you checked out the TBRC micro-comp? It looks very interesting...
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2017, 02:41:42 PM »
As long as we're wishing, I think CZ needs to make a GLOCK MOS-style system for the P-series, that would really bring CZ's up to the modern era.

Having used both milled and MOS-style RDS solutions I would say there is no substitute for milling.

Of course, I say that because I insist on being able to co-witness with irons and most of the MOS style solutions require adapter plates.

Yup, I'm in the process of building my P '007'.  A threaded urban grey P-07, CZ Custom milled slide, Leupold DP Pro with their optional adjustable co-witness iron, and a tall front night sight, with Springer Comp on the barrel and Talon wrap on the grip. If it comes out the way I hope, I'll ditch my Glock 17 MOS and do a P '009' version.  O0

Have you checked out the TBRC mini-comp? It looks very interesting...


I haven't looked at the TBRC mini-comp yet. Do you know if it has the correct fit clearance for P-07/09 slides? Apparently, some comps don't fit correctly, but comp will be the last step after I get milling done and fit the correct front sight (I'm hoping the stock suppressor sight will be tall enough for co-witness with the Leupold adjustable rear)  So, I have some time to get recommendations and consider Comp options. The Springer looked like it was designed for the P-07/09.  Thanks guys for your experience and suggestions.
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2017, 03:46:19 PM »
PS Here's a link to the Springer Precision Comp specifically designed for P-07/09.  What do y'all think?
http://shop.springerprecision.com/product.sc?productId=365

Any advantage of TBRC mini-comp? Same thread but seems to be designed for Glock unless I'm missing something??
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2017, 04:23:57 PM »
Any advantage of TBRC mini-comp? Same thread but seems to be designed for Glock unless I'm missing something??

Size seems to be the big one... I don't notice much of an advantage in styling (i.e. blending with the P-07/P-09 slide profile) with either comp LOL

I'll shoot TBRC an email and see if they can provide some kind of measurement to see if the micro-comp will clear - it looks to me like it would but that is just eyeballing it.
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Re: What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2017, 04:52:39 PM »
Ok, John @ TBRCi said: The recess on our MicroComp is .24". Anything longer than that will work fine.

Could someone with a micrometer measure from the back of the threads to the end of the slide on a P-07 or P-09 with a factory threaded barrel and report back on how much clearance is there??


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