What I REALLY want for a Polymer CZ pistol

[Vinny]

S0nspark,
Here's a few measurements taken from P-07 with my caliper +- a couple thousandths:
Face of slide to back of threaded cap: .157
Face of slide to flange where threads end: .235
Face of flange to end of barrel: .418
Face of slide to end of threaded barrel: .653

Hope this helps.

[s0nspark]

S0nspark,
Here's a few measurements taken from P-07 with my caliper +- a couple thousandths:
Face of slide to back of threaded cap: .157
Face of slide to flange where threads end: .235
Face of flange to end of barrel: .418
Face of slide to end of threaded barrel: .653

Hope this helps.

Awesome - thanks! Looks like it might be close but perhaps doable

[Vinny]

To get adequate clearance might require machining about 10 thousandths+- off the back end of the TBRC Micro-comp??

Just for comparison, I wonder what Springer Precision would say their recess is?? I would think about .225.  They say it's custom fit for the P-07/09 threaded barrels.

[Edward_Teach]

Following because I'm interested in the outcome of the comps.  I believe primary mentioned something about making their stealth comp for the p07/9.

Love my P07, it has replaced my a glock 19L, only things that would make the p07 better (for me)

 CGW trigger job (i plan on having that done)
Milling for an RMR with properly cowitness sights (I have a RM07 just waiting for that as well)
A magwell
A compensator (sadly I live in NY and while ported barrels are legal, and as far as I can figure out compensator themselves are also legal, just threaded barrels on semi auto pistols are the illegal part. So I'm almost thinking order threaded barrel from shop who also does smithing, order comp and have them pin and weld the comp onto barrel thus making it tech a ported barrel. I know i won't be able to remove the barrel from the slide, but I'd be able to take the slide off for normal cleaning and maintenance. and if I really need to just cut the barrel and I'll have the original one to drop back in)

[armoredman]

Sorry, Blackbeard, that really bites. Plenty of room for good gun people in Arizona...

[Edward_Teach]

Sorry, Blackbeard, that really bites. Plenty of room for good gun people in Arizona...

Oh it really does. That BS "safe act" is a joke, a semi auto handgun is considered an "assault weapon" if it weighs more than 50oz.

Thankfully i live on the NY Pa boarder, planning to move to PA and my county that i have my new York pistol license will let me keep that and still carry in NY if I live in the bordering PA county

[briang2ad]

Lose the buttons and get paddles.  Retraining takes 3 minutes.  Release reach issues are gone and mag change speeds go down. 

[Joe L]

I've lost control of my own I-want-a-long-barrel-plastic-striker-pistol thread!!  Wait a minute!  I never really had control anyway.   

Carry on.

Joe

[earlan357]

I've lost control of my own I-want-a-long-barrel-plastic-striker-pistol thread!!  Wait a minute!  I never really had control anyway.   

Carry on.

Joe

Lol.  Yeah I'd like to see expansion of the P-10 line to include a full-size and a sub compact.  Even better if the slides are interchangeable between all frames, like on the P-320.  5" slide on a sub-compact grip? Yes please.  I like options.

[Vinny]

I want a P-10L, a 5" version of the P-10, which will be a 4.5" version of the P-10C.  A P-10L with a red dot is, in my opinion, the only polymer pistol that has a chance of equaling my two P-09s as far as accuracy goes.  I'm already convinced I can live with a striker trigger pull, now that I have had some great results at 50 yards single hand standing with the P-10C carry gun. 

Of course, I could live with a P-09L or a P-11(?) just fine as well.   

Joe

OK, back on track.....
Joe, Do you think the P-10 striker trigger is, or could be, better than the P-09?
Of course, any trigger can be better with enough work, so I'm really asking your opinion out of the box or with minimal equal amount of work.
BTW, the threaded P-09 barrel is 5.15 in.already. Are you thinking even longer?

[Joe L]

Joe, Do you think the P-10 striker trigger is, or could be, better than the P-09?
Of course, any trigger can be better with enough work, so I'm really asking your opinion out of the box or with minimal equal amount of work.

I think it depends on the application.  Mine is different from most people.  Out of the box, my opinion is that the P-09/07 trigger is "better".  The P-10C trigger is so different that I don't really want to compare them directly.  I am surprised at how quickly I was able to learn to handle the P-10C trigger, but part of the reason is that I like some creep and a wall just before the firing pin is released.  Some folks don't want that and it would drive them nuts.  Some people like a crisp, clean, 3 lb hammer drop and you aren't going to get there safely with a striker, in my opinion, based on very limited experience with striker fired pistols. 

Short answer is I could live with a P-10C trigger with a 4# firing pin spring just fine, but I had to buy a CGW hammer for the P-09/07 pistols to be happy with them.  Maybe I didn't work with the factory hammers long enough, not sure. 

I can clarify that I would like to see a 5" slide gun, not just a suppressor barrel in a 4.5" gun. 

Joe

[earlan357]

This guy found an expanded spec table in the manual.  Not sure how I missed it but it's in my manual as well.  I converted the measurements to inches and oz.



Here's his video:
https://youtu.be/v8mvSVxRE_M?t=102

[Vinny]

Apparently, there are already plans for the P-10F Full size and P-10S sub-compact? Hmmm...
So, the desired longer 5" slide is not about barrel length, it's about increased sight radius?

[Joe L]

So, the desired longer 5" slide is not about barrel length, it's about increased sight radius?

And weight.  Once a red dot is mounted, the open sight sight radius isn't relevant.  The P-07 was as good at 100 yards as the P-09, I just had to hold a little higher because the barrel exit velocity was a little lower with the shorter barrel. 

Joe

[armoredman]

I think there are actually more versions of the P-10 planned after the "C" model proves the line.