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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2017, 07:15:37 PM »
Had some time this afternoon and the weather cooperated nicely. I fired 40 rounds today, same 135 grain ACME coated with 3.8 grains of Sport Pistol loaded to 1.120. two 10 round strings over the chrono showed a high of 989 and a low of 969 on the first string and high 988 and a low of 976 on the second. The average for both strings was 984.  I shot a few off hand groups at 20 yards after warming up at the chrono and all were under 2". Smoke was the same today, I did not notice it at all. I had a buddy watching and he said he could see some puffs of smoke but nothing like the CS or PV we have been shooting at this time of day, nothing you have to look around or under to see the target.This powder has a low report for a load approaching 133 power factor but has a different sound than any I have used before. I will try backing it off two tenths attempting a power factor of 130 to see if it starts to produce any smoke in the late afternoon. It is very clean and soft shooting leaving only a gray coloring like N320 with a low but slightly different report. All good so far!

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2017, 07:33:10 PM »
Thanks for further testing SP01Shadow. I lack the chronograph, but the cleanliness, low smoke, Grey residue and your other results seem similar to my experience.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2017, 07:36:23 PM »
Did you notice the tone of the report? Sounds a little different to me than the others.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2017, 08:10:58 PM »
I was muffed and plugged at an indoor range... So I didn't. I've got another 100 loaded up and I'll shoot them outdoors on Monday. I'll see if I can snag some video and I'll listen  for the report (and maybe I'll shoot decent again).

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2017, 02:17:07 PM »
So.... I thought I'd broken my draw. In dry fire I thought I fixed it, but whatever I did threw off my grip and trigger pull. Last range session was miserable and this one had a lot of dry fire mixed into live fire. The figure out what I changed and I'm coming back around with my draw and grip and trigger pull.

 That all culminated into shooting from a wrist rest at 25 yards with my SP-01 Compact to see if I could get some accuracy out of Sport Pistol. And.... BOOM! This is a first for me but I got a 4 shot group at 1 3/4"!!!



Side note, I had to hit the indoor range. Couldn't sneak away to drive out to the boonies for an outdoor session. It's hard to tell the difference in sound indoors for me. But it absolutely produces much less smoke than any other powder I've shot! Clean, accurate, not smokey, and thanks to SP01Shadow we have confirmed velocities. This is good stuff!

Oh and I didn't notice my pistols getting any hotter than normal.... I'll run mag dumps next time and specifically feel for that.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #50 on: July 03, 2017, 08:58:13 PM »
That's very nice shooting at 25yds. my friend.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #51 on: July 03, 2017, 09:03:28 PM »
That's very nice shooting at 25yds. my friend.
Thank you!

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2017, 06:18:55 PM »
i spent most of the afternoon today banging away with my new P-07 and my P-09. i backed the load off to 3.6 grains of powder and did indeed reach 130 PF. It is not quite as clean but the smoke was still at a minimum and the accuracy did not suffer still making 1 3/4" groups at 20 yards. The softness increased and at 130 this is a very soft shooting powder as would be expected. Double taps and drills were a breeze even with the smaller lighter P-07. Glad i purchased 8 lbs of it. It compares very closely with N320 in just about every aspect. i think we have a winner and at the same price as Promo what more could you want.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #53 on: July 09, 2017, 05:44:22 PM »
Update. Today I fired the most accurate 9mm load I have ever tried. 4.3 of Sport Pistol with an RMR 124 grain hollow point loaded to 1.130 with Winchester primers. 5 rounds went almost in the same hole at 25 yards, absolutely no smoke and nothing has ever been cleaner burning. I tried this load with 3 different guns, Shadow, CZ 75 Pre-B with 10X and my P-09. All 3 guns produced nearly identical groups. The new RMR jacketed hollow points in combination with the new Sport Pistol is an absolute winner. And to add, very soft shooting. My search is over.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #54 on: July 09, 2017, 09:39:46 PM »
Update. Today I fired the most accurate 9mm load I have ever tried. 4.3 of Sport Pistol with an RMR 124 grain hollow point loaded to 1.130 with Winchester primers. 5 rounds went almost in the same hole at 25 yards, absolutely no smoke and nothing has ever been cleaner burning. I tried this load with 3 different guns, Shadow, CZ 75 Pre-B with 10X and my P-09. All 3 guns produced nearly identical groups. The new RMR jacketed hollow points in combination with the new Sport Pistol is an absolute winner. And to add, very soft shooting. My search is over.

This doesn't help my "needs" list... Now I "need" those bullets to go with this powder!
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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #55 on: July 10, 2017, 09:16:52 AM »
Yes, you guys are not helping my bank account! I just picked up 8# of HP-38 and 1K RMR 124 gr FMJ, now I'm trying to rationalize some Sport Pistol and JHP...
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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2017, 12:41:35 PM »
Update. Today I fired the most accurate 9mm load I have ever tried. 4.3 of Sport Pistol with an RMR 124 grain hollow point loaded to 1.130 with Winchester primers. 5 rounds went almost in the same hole at 25 yards

Just saw Bowenbuilt, a guy over at the Benos forums who I know to do lots and lots of meticulous load testing, describe Alliant Sport Pistol as:

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...accurate as hell with most any jacketed bullet i have tried it with.


I need to lose some of the powder I have to make room for a newcomer. 

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2017, 12:47:44 PM »
The thread at Benos was not about Sport Pistol, so no reason to link the whole thread here.  It would be woefully off-topic, but if you would like to see the entire post by Bowenbuilt that I quoted from:

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i just started using Sport Pistol because when the air got muggy with lots of humidity both Prima V and Clean Shot started smoking like a freight train. Sport Pistol is very low smoke and loads just like N320. Fills the case nicely, is relatively clean like 320, low flash and low report and is accurate as hell with most any jacketed bullet i have tried it with. It is priced about the same as Promo and it meters very well. If the boys at ATK were shooting for a cheap N320 i'd say they nailed it.

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2017, 02:27:45 PM »
Shot more than 500 rounds today in practice doing Bill Drills and other stuff. The more I shoot SP the better I like it. Started with a clean gun, ended with a clean gun. No gunk, no heavy build up, no unburned power and only a light gray smoking inside the gun. Today with the light humidity absolutely no smoke. I am ordering more!This stuff is outstanding!

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Re: Alliant Sport Pistol
« Reply #59 on: August 04, 2017, 11:43:46 PM »
I thought I would respond to this thread for my data on Alliant Sport Pistol loads instead of starting a new one. I have to say I am very happy with the results of these loads. I loaded 3.6 and 3.7 grains of Sport Pistol with a 135 grain Black Bullet International HI TEK coated round nose bullet. Accuracy was very good. Below is my chronograph data from this evening for those who are interested.

Created: 08/04/17 05:40 PM                     
Description: CZ P 09 135 BBI HITEK
Notes 1: 3.6 grains Alliant Sport Pistol
Notes 2: 1.120 COAL Win SPP
Distance to Chrono(FT): 12.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 0.135
Bullet Weight(gr): 135.00
Temp: 78 °F
BP: 28.14 inHg
Altitude: 800.00
#          FPS  FT-LBS      PF
10   990      293.85  133.65 
9    982      289.12  132.57 
8    992      295.03  133.92 
7    995      296.82  134.32 
6    993      295.63  134.05 
5    982      289.12  132.57 
4    991      294.44  133.79 
3    989      293.25  133.51 
2    992      295.03  133.92 
1    982      289.12  132.57 
Average: 988.8 FPS
SD: 5.0 FPS
Min: 982 FPS
Max: 995 FPS
Spread: 13 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.5
True MV: 996 FPS
Group Size (in): 0.00

 

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