Woo-hooo For Reloading Savings!!!

[Scarlett Pistol]

I have a 10mm pistol on the way and I went to look up the cost of a box of 50, because I need to shoot it when I get it. This stuff is running around $30 for a box of 50!!!

I planned on reloading, but this spurred me to go check costs and see what I will be reloading for. With some coated 180 gr bullets from a local manufacturer and my powders I have the costs will be around $6.23 to $6.85 per 50 rounds. I can't believe how much I am going to save!!! All the while, I can load high quality ammo. This is just FANTASTIC!!!!

Any great cost savings (compared to store bought ammo) stories you all have from reloading?

[M1A4ME]

Now you just have to

1.  Buy some brass

2.  Find it when that pistol throws it to the next range

One day while my youngest son and I were at the range an older guy was shooting a pistol through/over a chronograph.  We really didn't mind going "cold" every little bit so he could check/adjust/whatever he was doing with the chronograph as we would just check our targets more often and pick up our own empties.

But that guy, every so often, would walk anywhere from 15 ft. to his right and 15 to 20 feet back and look for his empties.  My P07 .40 S&W tosses them a long ways, too, but pretty much straight to the right.

If they made the Tactical Sport in 10MM I'll bet it would be the softest recoiling 10 out there (at 3&1/2 lbs. loaded).

[IDescribe]

They're so cute when they're young.               

[M1A4ME]

You 10MM lovers/shooters.

Just saw this.

Can't say if it's a good price for sure but it looks good compared to .40 S&W and .45 acp ammo prices.

https://gun.deals/product/sellier-bellot-10mm-180-grain-fmj-50-rounds-1519

If you buy enough there are coupons for money off the price and free shipping and handling.

And then you have once fired brass after your range trip.

[Scarlett Pistol]

Well.... Let's be honest. It's more like I'm just getting to shoot lots more for the lonely ill spend haha.

Thanks for sharing M1A4ME! That seem like a good deal. Might be my brass buying strategy.

[schmeky]

Just "Bite the Bullet" so to speak and get a Dillon 550.  This press would pay for itself quickly if you shoot a lot of 10 mm.

[IDescribe]

Scarlett, if I were loading for a new caliber, I'd do two things:

• Choose a bullet weight that there's lots of load data for.
• Choose a bullet weight that leans toward my immediate use for the load.

Now, I do not own and have never owned or loaded for 10mm.  Someone like Wobbly (who owns and loads 10mm) might advise you better and differently than what I'm about to say, but in my head, I'm thinking that 155 and 180 are the two most common bullet weights for 10mm, so I am picking one of those two weights to start my reloading for 10mm.  I would assume that will make it easier to find load data.  And because I'm looking to load to practice for some Ubderwood Penetrator 140gr bullets doing 1500 feet/sec for 700 foot-pounds of muzzle energy, because of that, I'm going to the lighter bullet weight -- 155gr.

Loading up some 180gr bullets to 1100-1200 is going to leave me 150-200 foot-pounds short of my Underwoods, so I'd definitely go to a lighter bullet for practice and push it fast. 

That's my thinking.  Maybe Wobbly or another 10mm loader will chime in give you something better.

[Scarlett Pistol]

That's some excellent advice Idescribe, I'll hold my flight pattern for the Wobbly. There's some good load Data for BE-86 in 10mm, but I'm seeing it for HP-38 and Long shot (have a few pounds if those too).

Just "Bite the Bullet" so to speak and get a Dillon 550.  This press would pay for itself quickly if you shoot a lot of 10 mm.

Schmeky, I've got a Hornady LNL.... I dream of a Dillon,  but the Hornady has worked well enough so far. The "savings"  thus far have turned into Cajunized CZ's and more ammo through them. A shameless thank you to you and your crew David!

[ReloaderFred]

There's no mystery to the 10mm.  I've got a boatload of them, including semi-auto pistols from Tanfoglio and Colt, a revolver from S&W and a 10mm AR carbine from Olympic Arms.  I just sold one of my Colt Delta Elites, so I'm just down to one Colt in that caliber now.

I would stick with the 180 gr. bullets, since that's about the most common loading anymore, and there's plenty of data available.  The 10mm was originally configured with a 200 gr. bullet, at 1,200 fps, but some configurations (Glock) don't fully support the case and you end up with guppy formed brass after shooting, which ruins the brass, so most loadings are less than the original Norma load. 

And yes, your Tanfoglio is going to send your brass into the next zip code, so if you can possibly shoot next to a wall, that will keep the brass from flying quite so far.  You can also shorten the ejector like Seismic Sam did to his pistol.  It's a sticky on the Clone Forum, and here's the link:  http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=8209.0 

Shoot your new pistol and break it in properly before attempting any modifications, though, which I suggest with any new firearm.  Too many people modify firearms before ever shooting them, so they don't know if the original configuration was right for them, or not.  Then they report problems with their "new gun" and don't understand why.... 

Starline makes 10mm brass, and it's in stock, and most any 180 gr. bullet in .400"/.401" diameter is going to work in the 10mm.  Some nose configurations work better than others, and each pistol is an individual.

You're LnL press will load 10mm until the cows come home, so don't worry about it.  There's a ton of reloading information available for the 10mm, too. 

I personally don't care for the lighter loads in the 10mm, especially with the 135 gr. bullets.  They go fast, but I've never gotten the accuracy out of the lighter bullets that I get with the heavier bullets.  In fact, my most accurate load is with a 200 gr. cast bullet that I cast from an RCBS mold.  It's proven itself in both the pistols and the revolver, but I don't shoot them through the carbine.  I'm running them hot and I confine the carbine to fully jacketed bullets.  Even plated bullets won't run through the carbine, since they end up well over 1,450 fps and tumble because they've stripped the rifling.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[1SOW]

Just a thought:
At my practice range there are steel tables and some posts supporting a roof spanning all the tables.  I bought fiberglass screen material and used a thin post I made with a folding wooden "foot".  I put a roofing nail in the range post and made a brass screen to stop and drop my brass.  I fire 150-200 RDS and get all my brass back.  When I leave the brass screen rolls up on the post and is thrown in my truck which parks immediately behind My Table.
  I picked a table where only one shooter can stand comfortably.  Over a number of years,  that has become " my table".   . I know most of the other regular shooters there,  and they leave "my table" to me on Tuesday mornings. 8
We swap stories and guns often.  The owners honor the same "table rights".🔫

[Scarlett Pistol]

I've been looking around. Hard to find once fired brass for sale. Starline brass is $94.50 for 500.

Im considering getting 300 or so of that S&B on sale, and then shooting that /harvesting the brass. All while I order dies and bullets to get up and running....

Snagged 3k S&B large pistol Primers at Cabela's this morning. Thanks to a member posting that those were on sale!

[Son of the Gael]

Congratz on getting the best auto pistol round ever developed.     Which pistol are you getting?

I've been loading the 10 since the mid-80's (Delta Elite).  Here are a couple of suggestions:

1.  First and foremost, DON'T TRY TO MAKE IT A .41 MAGNUM.  IMHO that is most  handloaders' biggest mistake.  Stick to SAAMI loads, if you do so all the angst about supported/unsupported chambers goes away.

2.  Personally I prefer 150 to 165 gr bullets, I've tried everything from 135 to 215.  Obviously, others have other preferences.

3.  Mid to Slow burning powders work well.  I tried Accurate #2, but considered it too fast.  Universal thru Blue Dot range made me happy and I tried a lot of them.

4.  I strongly suggest a Lee FCD and their Bulge Buster.  Run your brass thru it occasionally, it will last forever.


Enjoy!

[Earl Keese]

I just sold my 10mm, but a lot of the guys posting on the 10mm forum always use Starline for hot loads. Early on I bought some ammo from North GA Reloading. For their new 10mm  ammo(not reloaded) they use Starline. They had mistakenly put new ammo in reload labelled boxes. I pointed it out to the owner and he sold me several boxes at the reload price($20/bx). Scarlet Pistol, if you want it I'll dig up whatever once fired Starline I have and send it your way. It isn't much but at least then you'd have a little for practice bear loads if you want.

[Scarlett Pistol]

Congratz on getting the best auto pistol round ever developed.     Which pistol are you getting?

I've been loading the 10 since the mid-80's (Delta Elite).  Here are a couple of suggestions:

1.  First and foremost, DON'T TRY TO MAKE IT A .41 MAGNUM.  IMHO that is most  handloaders' biggest mistake.  Stick to SAAMI loads, if you do so all the angst about supported/unsupported chambers goes away.

2.  Personally I prefer 150 to 165 gr bullets, I've tried everything from 135 to 215.  Obviously, others have other preferences.

3.  Mid to Slow burning powders work well.  I tried Accurate #2, but considered it too fast.  Universal thru Blue Dot range made me happy and I tried a lot of them.

4.  I strongly suggest a Lee FCD and their Bulge Buster.  Run your brass thru it occasionally, it will last forever.


Enjoy!

I picked up a Tanfoglio Witness Hunter. Took it out tonight and really liked shooting 10mm in that thing! Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll definitely put them to use as I get up and running on the reloading here soon.

I just sold my 10mm, but a lot of the guys posting on the 10mm forum always use Starline for hot loads. Early on I bought some ammo from North GA Reloading. For their new 10mm  ammo(not reloaded) they use Starline. They had mistakenly put new ammo in reload labelled boxes. I pointed it out to the owner and he sold me several boxes at the reload price($20/bx). Scarlet Pistol, if you want it I'll dig up whatever once fired Starline I have and send it your way. It isn't much but at least then you'd have a little for practice bear loads if you want.

Thanks Earl! Sent ya a PM.

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[Wobbly]

I've been looking around. Hard to find once fired brass for sale. Starline brass is $94.50 for 500.

Im considering getting 300 or so of that S&B on sale, and then shooting that /harvesting the brass. All while I order dies and bullets to get up and running....

I ordered 1000 Starline and sold 2 lots of 300 (600 total) for nearly what I paid. That way I got my brass nearly free. And the purchasers were really happy to get it !

You may not save as much as you think. Especially after you discover that 10mm dies also reload 40S&W. So then you need to go buy a 40 cal gun for the collection, because the bullets and dies are interchangeable. Then you need to buy a 45ACP, because you already have large primers from the 10.

The "savings" simply never end !