HB Industries P10 trigger

[viking499]

In CZ dating, the first number is the day and the second number is the month.

[r1dramma]

This is very strange. I just check the paper work on the test firing and it showed a date of 11/09/2017 which, as we know, is impossible since today is 10/15/2017. I just emailed CZ to find out the manufacture date of my CZ 10-PC and pointed out the confusing date of the test firing paper.

You're reading it wrong,  for us it would be 9/11/2017.

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[Thebillsman]

This is very strange. I just check the paper work on the test firing and it showed a date of 11/09/2017 which, as we know, is impossible since today is 10/15/2017. I just emailed CZ to find out the manufacture date of my CZ 10-PC and pointed out the confusing date of the test firing paper.

Don't they put the day first in Europe.. the 11th of September?

[AX354486]

Thanks D1dramma for providing a picture of test target.  I have a P 10C with a test date of early July 2017

The basis for my question why there seems to be conflicting opinions on the successful outcome of the HPI trigger   I was wondering if early versions of either the pistol or even the trigger would suggest the reason for these seemingly random experiences.   D1dramma appears to have a relatively early version with a happy result

I don?t like the trigger bite/fangs of my P10c and very much want a solution.  I want the HPI to work but I am not interested in a project or gunsmith modifications

Can anyone sum up any conclusions that can be reached and if dates matter.?   I am also  inviting HPI to comment

[cremaley]

Thebillsman That would make total sense since I purchased my CZ 10-PC on October 10, 2017. A build date of one month prior would seem very logical. Thanks. BTW I have also contacted HB Industries for their comments on the issues some are having with their trigger.

[cremaley]

I did hear back from CZ-USA and they told me the ship date on my P-10C was 9-26-2017 so a test fire date of 9-11-2017 is very logical. Does anyone know if CZ changed the sights on the P-10? Some have posted that the early models had luminescent sights. Mine definitely does not.

[cremaley]

Had another conversation with CZ-USA and was told that the early models did have luminescent sights on them but the more recent models do not. When asked why the change I was told that the sight manufacturer simply stopped shipping the luminescent ones to CZ and switched to white sights.

[Indy_Tim]

Had another conversation with CZ-USA and was told that the early models did have luminescent sights on them but the more recent models do not. When asked why the change I was told that the sight manufacturer simply stopped shipping the luminescent ones to CZ and switched to white sights.

That's easy enough to fix.  I picked up a bottle of luminescent paint and did the sights on a Remington R1S last year and they are at least as bright as the one's on my P10C.  I think that I spent maybe $13 on the paint and there's enough in the bottle to do many, many sights.

[HBi]

To address some of the questions in this thread, there are multiple "configurations" of the P10C out on the US market right now. As others have noticed, sometimes it could be differences in sight paint that make a "configuration" unique, and other times it might be a different front slide insert, or breech face geometry, or maybe the rear slide plate and firing pin assembly fit together differently, etc... The thing to keep in mind is that every P10C to leave the factory has been proofed and test fired and runs as is.

@AX354486 had an excellent question:

The basis for my question why there seems to be conflicting opinions on the successful outcome of the HBI trigger   I was wondering if early versions of either the pistol or even the trigger would suggest the reason for these seemingly random experiences.   D1dramma appears to have a relatively early version with a happy result

Speaking on behalf of HBI, we have been compiling a database of serials, build dates, and unique configurations for P10C handguns here in the US. What we have noticed is that there is not any "good or bad", "early or late", "new or old" type of classification. It simply has to do with different component geometry and different parts configurations. Many of the P10C build "configurations" are a just little bit different.

We designed, tested, and validated our triggers in a variety of different P10C configurations. We are constantly buying and checking new P10C imports to insure that our triggers function 100%. We strongly encourage anyone encountering any type of issue with our triggers to contact us so that we can help you to determine the root cause of the problem and resolve the issue, whatever it might be.

Hope this info helps, again, if there is anything that we can do to either help or provide info for anyone please do not hesitate to PM us on the forum or call/email us. We are always here to help :-)

[cremaley]

Had another conversation with CZ-USA and was told that the early models did have luminescent sights on them but the more recent models do not. When asked why the change I was told that the sight manufacturer simply stopped shipping the luminescent ones to CZ and switched to white sights.

That's easy enough to fix.  I picked up a bottle of luminescent paint and did the sights on a Remington R1S last year and they are at least as bright as the one's on my P10C.  I think that I spent maybe $13 on the paint and there's enough in the bottle to do many, many sights.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[AX354486]

HPI.  Thanks for stepping out and providing as such clarity and ownership as possible  This is helpful in addressing if a early model or ?batch? is prone to issues with your appealing trigger.  I am assuming it?s works fine and has no ?trade offs? in other functionality 

If another member of the board believes there are negative trade offs to the trigger that might diminish other aspects of the gun OR conversely others are very enthusiastic about their results...it would great to hear from you.   Maybe it would draw a conclusion to a topic that has had some mixed messages

[nickshawn]

HPI.  Thanks for stepping out and providing as such clarity and ownership as possible  This is helpful in addressing if a early model or ?batch? is prone to issues with your appealing trigger.  I am assuming it?s works fine and has no ?trade offs? in other functionality 

If another member of the board believes there are negative trade offs to the trigger that might diminish other aspects of the gun OR conversely others are very enthusiastic about their results...it would great to hear from you.   Maybe it would draw a conclusion to a topic that has had some mixed messages

Isn't this what this thread is full of....

[AX354486]

I have not seen a consensus or a tide willing to voice their support   Where are the end users of the trigger that think it is great and recommend buying?

[nickshawn]

All along this thread you will find multiple users with glowing reviews. Including mine.


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[nova3930]

I have not seen a consensus or a tide willing to voice their support   Where are the end users of the trigger that think it is great and recommend buying?

I'm really happy with mine and have been since I installed it.

Nate Whitfield
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