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Offline armoredman

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I am very fond of my SP-01 Phantom, fantastic sidearm, carry it often, but it has one, tiny, weak point - the mag release button rusts at the drop of a hat. I am almost daily scrubbing it and oiling it when I carry it, especially in AZ summer weather. I think the finish finally wore through last year with all the use I give it. What would a good coating I could afford do to stop this, any ideas? I've never used cold blue, don't know how tough that would be.

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Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 06:07:36 AM »
Depends on the material used for the part and how it was manufactured.

I'm a huge fan of salt bath nitrocarburization, also known by different names such as the proprietary Melonite, Tuftride, Tenifer and "QPQ".

This is a surface conversion process and not a coating and it's highly corrosion and wear resistant.

I am assuming the part is an MIM part which while designed to be manufactured by that process is porous and lacks the density of a CNC machined part.

Having something like Tungsten Diamond Like Carbon applied to a NEW part would be sufficient. 

After the part is media blasted and surgically cleaned it will have 5 to 7 microns of electroless Ni applied. Then it would have 3 microns of W DLC applied.

Ionbond does the latter. You may have to search to see who does the former with small parts.


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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 09:16:33 AM »
You could also search for a non- MIM new part that is CNC'd and already coated. I haven't looked but CZ custom or Cajun might have one.

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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 09:25:09 AM »
Cerakote and Dura cote can be applied at home but it seems a big hassle just to do a mag release. How about contacting Dan Wesson and see if they can apply their Duty Coat for you? That finish is pretty tough and gets good reviews.

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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 10:39:16 PM »
CZC is right up the road from me.... :o

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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 11:27:25 PM »
Why not go for NP3?

Offline Hemiscorpius lepturus

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2017, 03:23:31 AM »
Nitrided would probably be the best option

As for coatings, the more phosphorous the better the corrosion resistance, at least 9% for "high" resistance

Parkerizing
Standard phosphate coating for iron and steel

Nickel-Phosphorus
Uses nickel instead of manganese, increasing durability, can be applied to aluminum, titanium, iconel
Best option for corrosion resistance on low wear parts

Nickel-P-Boron
Adds boron nitride for increased lubricity and durability

Nickel-P-Teflon (NP3)
Uses Teflon instead of boron nitride

Nickel-Boron
Nickel and boron alloy, creates boron carbide where it meets the carbon in steel
Higher operational temps than NP3
Generally silver but can be made matte black

Nickel-Boron-Boron
Adds boron nitride for even better lubricity with the same high temp performance

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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2017, 05:56:50 AM »
A-man, I know you've had that pistol for quite some time, so it took a while to get to this point.  Is a possible solution just buying a new part from CZ to get another 5-6 years out of?  Today's parts might even have a more sweat-resistant coating.  ;)

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Re: Aftermarket metal coating with serious strength - suggestions?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2017, 11:24:10 AM »
A-man, I know you've had that pistol for quite some time, so it took a while to get to this point.  Is a possible solution just buying a new part from CZ to get another 5-6 years out of?  Today's parts might even have a more sweat-resistant coating.  ;)

I don't know. My 85C mag release lost its black color in about 1 month, and I didn't carry the 85C! That said, my S2 mag release seems to be doing better, but I think my hand just doesn't make as much contact.