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Offline CZATC

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Trigger reset C100
« on: September 30, 2017, 08:59:37 PM »
As I am preparing to install the most recent iteration of CGW hammer kit for the Canik, I was feeling everything out one last time to get a good 'before' feel and noticed something I hadnt after I put the spring pack in. Single action reset feels like two stages, a first soft bump I can settle in to (inaudible) and if pulled from this point does nothing to hammer and a second firm click that is also audible.

Will the hammer kit resolve this? I like to ride the reset a bit and am concerned about short stroking the trigger. I also see this a learning opportunity as I am no professional so thoughts on the effect of hammer spring/firing pin block spring on this sensation is appreciated. That's kinda my assumption, that the fpbs and/or trigger return spring might be a little soft.

Guys with more experience in canik/c100 is this a thing you see on stock guns or just as you tune and have to adjust?

Thanks!

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Offline MikeLW

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2017, 05:47:18 PM »
I checked my stock C100 and the reset is pretty clean. It resets in just one clean click. I tried to make it fail or not be clean but it is fine.

Offline CZATC

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2017, 12:08:50 AM »
I checked my stock C100 and the reset is pretty clean. It resets in just one clean click. I tried to make it fail or not be clean but it is fine.
Thank you Mike sorry this appreciation is late. Having a new baby and a 2 yr old and the wife having surgery 2wks later really made October/September interesting. Still haven't got around to putting the parts in but if that hammer kit doesn't fix it I will post a video. Playing a little more with it I actually suspect the Disco or where it interfaces the hammer to be the culprit. Thanks for the input!

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Offline CZATC

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2018, 10:37:02 PM »
Wanted close this open ended thread up.

Finished my CGW hammer kit install and it is excellent. Even helped with the hammer bite I was having, now it's just, uh, hammer nibble?

 The reset issue persisted however and i gave the good folks at CGW a call and David instructed me on adjusting the trigger bar tension. While tedious adjusting a little at a time and testing adjusting a little more and testing again I am happy to say it's balanced out now and feels clean and quick. 200 rounds later I have red thread locked the adjustable sear where it needs to be and am am very happy with the outcome.

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Offline MikeLW

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 06:03:44 AM »
No worries about the reply. Life is happening here too. Glad to hear the good report. Gonna try out some new ammo in my C100 and 2 CZs tomorrow. It's supposed to be 57' and sunny so may be a fun day.

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 02:49:51 PM »
CZATC thanks for the follow up as all too often threads just die of old age without closure.

On the reset .... while you had it apart did you smooth and polish? I wonder if the extra bump in the reset is just a nasty place. If you did not smooth/polish at all did you inspect all those parts related to trigger movement in reset? Just curious, I have no answer beyond a sticky spot. I cannot think of a purely mechanical fault beyond roughness somewhere...maybe one wee burr in the wrong place. I have had more than one apart and there is a variance in machining and finish from gun to gun. There are a couple good videos covering the usual suspects to inspect/correct. One thing I know for certain concerning every pistol I have gotten into...smoothing and polishing helped them all. Free too!
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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 02:56:55 PM »
Thanks for follow up....we get curious

When you had it apart did you do any smoothing of the parts that move during reset. Careful smoothing, with no metal recontouring or removal, followed logically with a bit of polish might be your answer. I know you at least looked that still over .... you did right?

I have no answer other than to note that every pistol, all types, I have smoothed and then half heartedly polished was improved. Other than a bit of time it is essentially free too!
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Offline CZATC

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Re: Trigger reset C100
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2018, 11:29:30 AM »
Yes sir I did the polishing that schmeky recommends in the smoothing sticky although I did it by hand no Dremel. It was definitely the spring, trigger bar, disco when I started seriously looking at it watching the trigger bar move as I worked the trigger from below and above, I could see the spring was not even making contact on the underside. I suppose the trigger bar itself could be unsquare but as I was polishing I hit he engagement surfaces. It was a good experience going through the action timing gifs and talking with David about how it works.

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