Author Topic: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm  (Read 2754 times)

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The Guardian

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2017, 06:18:11 PM »
Personally the extra capacity is worth the cosmetic faux paux to me.

Love DW's....well I used to anyhow, now its just a strong like......my only issue is why would a higher-end gun-maker send out a new firearm with a magazine that basically looks like it wasn't made for that gun......maybe just don't ship them with any mags, drop the price and let the customer find one that fits properly....pains me to even have to suggest that.  I used to buy DW's partly due to the craftsmanship.....if not having a proper fitting mag is the new norm, then I guess I'll have to look at a gun-maker that addresses the details/cosmetics as well as function...at least at that price point.  I get that you can acquire extended mags, if you want them.....but if I'm paying a premium for a firearm, especially a classic 1911...and apparently its not just the Valor Blue that is having this issue, lets make it "look" like they were trying to put out a well thought-out firearm......I mean really, is that too much to expect.  ???
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Offline JohnN

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2017, 06:43:55 PM »
Personally the extra capacity is worth the cosmetic faux paux to me.

Love DW's....well I used to anyhow, now its just a strong like......my only issue is why would a higher-end gun-maker send out a new firearm with a magazine that basically looks like it wasn't made for that gun......maybe just don't ship them with any mags, drop the price and let the customer find one that fits properly....pains me to even have to suggest that.  I used to buy DW's partly due to the craftsmanship.....if not having a proper fitting mag is the new norm, then I guess I'll have to look at a gun-maker that addresses the details as well as function...at least at that price point.  I get that you can acquire extended mags, if you want them.....but if I'm paying a premium for a firearm, especially a classic 1911...and apparently its not just the Valor Blue that is having this issue, lets make it "look" like they were trying to put out a well thought-out firearm......I mean really, is that too much to expect.  ???

The stock mags fit flush like they are supposed to it is the 10 rounders that stick further out of the frame.  If I am not mistaken, the original Colt 1911's were designed with nine round mag capacity. As you can see there is a good bit of difference in the length of the magazines.

Always worried how the gun worked not how pretty it is.


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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2017, 01:44:29 PM »
This is where a few of us have a difference of opinion. First, let me clarify:  the stock mags that come with the DW Valor 9mm are ten rounders.  They stick out.  The flush 9 round magazines are stock on a PM9 but I had to have DW swap out my 10 rounders for 9 rounders.  If someone got 9 rounders stock with a Valor that would be good information for the group.

Second:  I strongly feel that a gun maker like Dan Wesson with a reputation for producing beautiful and functional firearms should not produce a 1911 with a cosmetic faux pas.  I think that the Valor should provide 10 round capacity and be nice looking.  I paid enough for that.  Dan Wesson can do that if they want to.  A mag well solves the problem.  Black magazines help the problem on my Valor blue.  I am not a gun designer but DW may feel free to use my solutions for future 9mm 1911s at no charge.

If capacity is more important than form, why not design a 15 round magazine that sticks out of the Valor an inch or two?  A premium 1911 can have and should have both form and function.

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2017, 04:26:49 PM »
I just want to say from the picture, the mag seems like a good fit for the Specialist since it has a small magwell. The standard Specialist 9mm capacity is 10 round.

Agree it looks awful on the Valor from the picture.

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #19 on: December 12, 2017, 07:44:03 PM »
Recent information shows that many DW models may be discontinued.  It does not surprise me that the Valor blue is one of them.  However, my 9 round mags and my 10 round black mags make the gun look great, and it functions wonderfully.

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2017, 12:09:51 AM »
Update:  I am unsatisfied with the current Dan Wesson response.  I am shipping my mags to them to be exchanged for "flush" magazines.  However, I was told that they will be 10 round mags.  Truly flush mags would have to be 9 rounds so I am pessimistic that the result will be a nice looking firearm.   Another thought was that I got a good deal on bud's gun shop.  Is it possible that Dan Wesson sold subpar guns cheaply to on line retailers?  Bud's and another on line retailer are using the good looking photo of the .45 for selling purposes.  Could something nefarious like this really happen with such a reputable company like DW? 

I remain unbelieving that Dan Wesson would put out a firearm that looks like mine knowingly.  I also find it surprising that my situation is being addressed as if it a small matter. 

To me,  this is small matter.  If the gap bothers you so much, use flush mags, perhaps an extended magwell.  There are plenty of Valor Blue 9mm pictures out there that show the gap.  http://www.gunbroker.com/item/727389018
My Valor Blue (from Bud's) came with the same mags as my Specialist and your Valor came with.  Only difference is they are more pleasing to the eye with the Specialist and the extended magwell.  Regardless, I don't think much of the mags. 


My Premier II came with 10 round mags w/ tapered base pad which gives a clean look.   Perhaps they didn't have any flush mags on hand when these were made, I don't know.   I use ETM and Cobra mags exclusively as they've proved to be the most reliable.

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2017, 07:36:25 AM »
I just ordered a mec-gar.  It does look pretty close to what I need.  I also ordered the tripp.

As for the flush 9 round Dan Wesson magazines, I have had no shooting problems..........

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Re: Fit/finish DW Valor blue 9mm
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2017, 08:21:46 PM »
I'm thinking of selling/trading my Valor Blue at some point.  It's a nice gun, but not Les Baer nice.   Might have to see if the demand ever spikes on them.  My Specialist has been good but DWs still seem overrated to me. 
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