P-10 first impressions..yikes

[Mjolnir]

How is it people purchase a pistol, bring it home and then declare the trigger pull as "trash"?

I always dry-fire the pistol and work the slide and magazine release prior to purchase.

I purchased this firearm from gunbroker and didn't have the opportunity to play with it before receiving it. I also expected this pistol to have a certain, small amount of break-in as far as the trigger goes, as most guns do, so there was no reason for me not to accept it after my initial inspection at my FFL. My P-07 didn't have a spectacular trigger when I first received it, but it's amazing now.

Do the cartridges partially clear the breech or do they just lie there stopping the next round from being fed?

As far as this goes, no, the rounds don't actually stovepipe, the remain parallel to the rest of the rounds in the magazine. I will make a separate comment with a photo from my very first malfunction.

Concerning the slide refusing to lock back, like I posted before, normally I wouldn't be afraid to admit it had I been doing something wrong, but I know for a fact that I wasn't. As stated before, I believe limp wristing would have caused a malfunction in my other firearms well before this if it was an issue and my small hands don't really cause my thumbs to come anywhere near the slide or the slide release when holding this particular firearm. I do appreciate your insight and interest though, I will keep everybody posted with progress.

Roger that. I wasn't trying to just your balls. Just a general statement and your experience is why I'm hesitant to take advantage of internet sales.

I pay more locally but if they have several I ask to see them all and thy oblige.

I hope they either troubleshoot and repair the pistol or provide you another.


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[sumoman]

I have two P-10c and had some malfunctions with the second one right out of the box. Malfunctions were failures to extract and eject, no locking on the last round, wobbly mag release and misfires. The first one did not malfunction ever and is 100% functional. I sent the second P-10c to CZ (shipping was free) and in keeping with their great reputation, they changed extractor, ejector, entire firing block, almost all internals in the frame including metal insert block, slide stop and mag release parts, mirror-polished feed ramp and test-fired the gun.
 Took them almost 6 weeks, but it is certainly worth it. BTW, they sent me e-mail to update on the progress every week. I wish I sent the first gun, too. Now the second one feels like custom. The trigger pull is lighter and smoother and I am more accurate with it than with first one. No failures of any kind. So I have full confidence in CZ warranty.

[cremaley]

Sounds like great customer service from CZ-USA. Really glad to hear how they handled your issues and how well the resolved them.

[MRblack06]

Mjolnir sorry man, I wasn't trying to come off any particular way, just trying to create clear and thorough responses for everyone to read so as to not leave questions unanswered.

Sumoman, I'm glad to hear your experience went so well. I'll be sending mine off tomorrow afternoon finally and hopefully they'll treat me as good as they treated you. My ultimate fear has been that they'll get it and deem that theres nothing actually wrong with it or not fully look in to the statement I typed up and that it'll come back with things still wrong with it, but it sounds like they go the extra mile when they get stuff back so thats comforting.

[armoredman]

I predict full satisfaction. 

[sumoman]

Describe all the problems in the letter and they will take care of them. Looks like they install newer parts. In the warranty log letter, they wrote that they "updated" the front insert and breach face lead in with newer ones. Don't know what is the difference, but sounds like they are careful, have spare parts and use them.

[MRblack06]

And just like that, she's on her way back to where she came from. I will keep everybody updated as things progress!

[cremaley]

And just like that, she's on her way back to where she came from. I will keep everybody updated as things progress!

Good luck! I'm sure everything is going to turn out fine.

[MRblack06]

Alright fella's, this morning I received the notification email from CZ stating that the work for my firearm has been completed! I sent it off on Oct 17 and it was received by CZ the morning of the 18th. Total time from time received to notification of completion was 30 days, so they're doing great at keeping it within their projected time frames. Work performed remarks are: Adjusted extractor, breach face lead in, successful test fire. Not sure what the remark about the breach face means, so any info on that would be appreciated as well, just so I can better understand the work they did. With that being said, I should be expecting it back in the next few days and will post again when I have it in my hands again!

[armoredman]

Very awesome sir, please keep us updated!

[Oldhammerdude]

Alright fella's, this morning I received the notification email from CZ stating that the work for my firearm has been completed! I sent it off on Oct 17 and it was received by CZ the morning of the 18th. Total time from time received to notification of completion was 30 days, so they're doing great at keeping it within their projected time frames. Work performed remarks are: Adjusted extractor, breach face lead in, successful test fire. Not sure what the remark about the breach face means, so any info on that would be appreciated as well, just so I can better understand the work they did. With that being said, I should be expecting it back in the next few days and will post again when I have it in my hands again!

I would presume the breech face lead in might be either they polished the the face of the slide or they did something to the rearmost edge of the chamber. I am most likely wrong but maybe this means polished feed ramp also. Anyway glad their getting it back to ya.
  Hope it's  Happy Shootin for you.

[ranastas]

Sounds like they felt the gap between breach face and hook of the extractor was out of spec, and I'm thinking the adjustment was replacing the extractor. If the gap is wrong, the hook wont sit in the rim causing either erratic extraction or not as common out of battery issues. I could be wrong on adjustability of the extractor cause I haven't pulled it apart on mine but I'm surmising their isnt adjustability in the mech.

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[MRblack06]

Okay everybody, range report as follows: I put 100 rounds through it today (same ammo as before) at the local range to give it a decent test fire period and there were zero malfunctions.  I didn't expect there to be any after being seen by the manufacturer but one never knows. Still hitting a little bit lower than point of aim so I think I just need a little more trigger time before I really lock it in; the trigger is still smoothing out. Meanwhile, the P-07 is still a laser beam so we will see how the next trip to the range goes. Perhaps I'll try a larger back strap and see if it helps any.

All in all, I'm much more satisfied with the way the pistol is running and how the trigger is finally breaking in to be what everybody raves about. I'm still far away from considering it for defensive purposes but hopefully, with time, I can work towards that. Biggest take away from this: CZ-USA's customer service is outstanding. They were very timely in sending me a pre-paid, over-night shipping, shipping label. You receive an email notification when they receive your firearm and literally, at the same time every week, you're sent a status report for your firearm. On the day they finish their work, they send you another one and FedEx sends you shipping information within the next hour or so. If you have problems with any of your firearms, send it in to CZ-they will make it right!

[Ferris13]

Glad to hear they made it right...I had to replace out of spec mags and they were extremely helpful and had a really quick turnaround.

[cremaley]

Received my P-10 back from CZ-USA Warranty Service. They replaced the striker block spring and adjusted the slide cover plate. The only issue I had with my P-10 was the striker tip breaking off. They sent me a new one and when my gunsmith was replacing it along with installing a 3.5 pound striker spring he said the striker block spring broke. However, since you do not have to remove the striker block spring to change out the striker and replace its spring, I think he was checking the striker block spring and since it is under tension it popped out and got lost. CZ-USA told me they have not had a single issue with the striker block spring except for mine. In a way I'm  kinda glad this happened because it gave me an excuse to send my P-10 back to CZ-USA and they did work on the slide plate cover to prevent the so called "fatal flaw". In any event, my P-10 is back, the trigger is breaking crisply at 4.5 pounds and all is well in my world.