CZ P07 - Longer term follow up -somewhat surprised...

[briang2ad]

As some might remember, I got a P07 this past year, yet despite polishing the crap out of the internals, and installing a CGW sear spring, it still stacks like crazy halfway through the pull, etc.  In objective language - it sucks.  Especially compared to my SP 2022 (which is the definition of smooth and light OTB).  So, recently, I thought I might just ditch it and get a PX4 Storm and get something with a good trigger OTB.  However, I thought I'd give it one more chance at the range up against my SP2022 and P99 - both great guns. 

Low and behold. I shoot it about as well in DA, and at 15 yards, because the sights are so well regulated, I was a tad better with the P07.  Trigger still has that 'sucky' feel, but I THINK, because it is a shorter pull, if you do your work, it keeps you from driving the muzzle down.  (A typical problem shooting in DA).  My eyes are also going from age, so the nice big white dot front makes a difference.  So... I might keep it, and dump some CGW parts in and go from there.  I figure that if it smooths a drops a bit in weight, it might be very good.  It is pretty decent in follow up even now.  So, in all, I am pleasantly surprised, and have learned some thing more about triggers. 

Also, CZ Custom is usually out of Schlitz, so is there anywhere else to get the slim Tritium front sight with gold outline?

[Raining_Brass]

Sear spring does basically nothing for double action. And while polishing helps a lot - you didn?t touch the two HUGEST factors in a better 07/09 DA pull. You didn?t adress the trigger bar spring, nor did you go down on the main spring weight.
Go down to a 15lb main with a CGW ext. firing pin & reduced power fp spring, reduced power trigger return spring, and bend the trigger bar spring down so that it?s just at the bottom of the decocker lever hole.


Then let us know if your DA still sucks.










And since I can see the future - it won?t.

[ranastas]

???lol yep


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[DOC 1500]

Sear spring does basically nothing for double action. And while polishing helps a lot - you didn?t touch the two HUGEST factors in a better 07/09 DA pull. You didn?t adress the trigger bar spring, nor did you go down on the main spring weight.
Go down to a 15lb main with a CGW ext. firing pin & reduced power fp spring, reduced power trigger return spring, and bend the trigger bar spring down so that it?s just at the bottom of the decocker lever hole.


Then let us know if your DA still sucks.










And since I can see the future - it won?t.

I'll add to that, and ask if you did the suggested stoning and polishing of the left side of the hammer and the left side of the frame where the hammer rubs. That's going to change the pull halfway through.
I put a thread in the smoothing and polishing section about just such a procedure.
Empty all of the ammunition out of the gun then slowly pull the trigger in da and take a look at the left side of the hammer how it rubs the frame and then pull it again slowly with your eyes closed and you'll feel it big time.
And that's all I've got to say about that.

[briang2ad]

I should not have mentioned the sear spring.  I know all that - I just thought polishing the snot out of it (even DOCs left side of the hammer job), would fix it.

But again, on the plus side, I'll likely keep her and work it further. 

[DOC 1500]

Do all that "raining brass" suggested you will be amazed.

[SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM]

My P-07 has a CGW hammer and CGW DA roller with an 18lb hammer spring and it's smooth as butter with no stack in DA and super crisp and clean in SA and I never polish parts as I prefer too let them develop their own wear patterns.

[wdbutcher]

I agree with what's already been said. Just a CGW self defense spring kit will will make a huge difference. The competition kit might even be better. $24 is a small investment.
 https://cajungunworks.com/product/spgk79-yellow-self-defense-hammer-spring/
https://cajungunworks.com/product/97910-gold-hammer-spring-and-blue-hammer-spring/

[s0nspark]

Going to a 15# mainspring made a huge difference in my P-07s... and I found that the CGW roller smoothed things out a good bit too.

[Edward_Teach]

Not to hijack the thread,  but for those who have gone to the 15# spring instead of the 18#, is there a noticeable difference in trigger pull. And I know SHE says the 18# for reliable primer strikes, are you also running the extended firing pin (I don't have that yet, next plan is the short reset kit) or do you have the stock firing pin and are you having any issues with range/practice ammo?

[Raining_Brass]

Yes, there?s a big difference in trigger pull from 18lb to 15lb. I run 15lb in every 07/09 I own with CGW extended firing pin and reduced power fp spring, including my carry 07. Have never, ever had light strike issues with a huge assortment of ammo. *I don?t shoot steel cased ammo so I can?t speak on those primers.

[Hemiscorpius lepturus]

You need to replace the hammer and polish the sear edge without reshaping it or "unsquaring" the edge, that is how you will get rid of the wall

[s0nspark]

Yes, there?s a big difference in trigger pull from 18lb to 15lb. I run 15lb in every 07/09 I own with CGW extended firing pin and reduced power fp spring, including my carry 07. Have never, ever had light strike issues with a huge assortment of ammo. *I don?t shoot steel cased ammo so I can?t speak on those primers.

Same here... I've seen zero problems out of the 15# spring with any of the ammo I shoot.

[briang2ad]

Yes, there?s a big difference in trigger pull from 18lb to 15lb. I run 15lb in every 07/09 I own with CGW extended firing pin and reduced power fp spring, including my carry 07. Have never, ever had light strike issues with a huge assortment of ammo. *I don?t shoot steel cased ammo so I can?t speak on those primers.

Same here... I've seen zero problems out of the 15# spring with any of the ammo I shoot.

Have you run ANY 'hard primer' ammo?  I like to run Tula and Wolf - it tests a gun lighting all primers, and it frankly is good range ammo in 9mm.

[flattusmaximus78]

Are some of the Omega triggers that bad OOTB? I have a hammer spring, sanded down FP block plunger, took some tension of the trigger bar support spring; my trigger is insanely light and crisp. No polishing.... 3000-4000 round mind you, but it was awesome OOTB on day one.