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Moken

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2017, 09:22:55 PM »
Some really great input. I to hope SAR makes a good go of it. Its good to have choice. But not enough time or gun money!!!! lolol

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2017, 10:12:21 PM »
I agree with darink300zx. The only reason I bought my P100 is I wanted an all steel compact carry. I was already familiar with Canik, so I had no problem buying one. On the other hand, I was mightily impressed with my B6P. If I could have gotten an all steel SAR compact at an equivalent price, that would have been my preference. I, too think the entire SAR line up will succeed here. Both SAR and Canik are manufactured in NATO certified facilities. In my opinion that speaks volumes for quality control, and the fit and finish on my two examples exceeds that specification. Adding SAR to the mix will increase competition, and ensure that prices stay at an affordable, competitive level for some time to come. I think EAA may come to regret letting the SAR line go.
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2017, 10:55:00 PM »
I just browsed their Web site. It doesn't look like some second rate plant. It gives me confidence in both brands.

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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2017, 10:57:45 PM »
Is the B6 a CZ clone or something else?

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2017, 11:01:37 PM »
Is the B6 a CZ clone or something else?

B6 is almost indistinguishable from a CZ75B. Parts aren't quite interchangeable, but the performance is excellent. I have never experienced a malfunction, and it is more than acceptably accurate at 10 yards. It's almost as if you point your finger and a hole appears right where you wanted it. It is my "goto" range gun.
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2017, 03:04:16 AM »
Very interesting comparison between SAR MEGA and Canik L120. However, to be fair they should compare with S120.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdh7rsSkWEw

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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2017, 03:46:48 AM »
Very interesting comparison between SAR MEGA and Canik L120. However, to be fair they should compare with S120.
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Excellent video. They were discussing the recoil difference, and missed the obvious. The SAR Mega is an all steel gun, and weighs about 6oz more than the alloy framed L120. The Mega is the successor to the B6 (the B6 models apparently are now all polymer). This video is great for the closeup view of firing. You will note the ridiculously low amount of muzzle flip, leading to a rapid recovery for a second shot. I suspect the reason the shooter was pulling double taps on the Mega is because he is used to shooting a poly or alloy frame pistol, and was not sufficiently recovering the extra frame weight before firing the second shot. This is just a matter of getting used to the gun. One thing they didn't try, but which I found is, my 17 round SAR mag feeds and fires flawlessly in my 15 round Tristar.
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2017, 07:07:22 AM »
My Sar B6P shoots like my Witness P S, accurate, also my Canik SF Elite.
I have found that the take down lever/slide catch lever interchange between the Witness and Sar perfectly.
Still lite on parts and accessories for Sar, Canik and Witness but Mec-Gar has mags for all.
Inexpensive pistols right now but I expect the prices to go up if they go more main stream.
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2017, 07:12:04 AM »
Is the B6 a CZ clone or something else?

If I were to call it a clone it's more a clone of the Tanfoglio design.  I'm not a gunsmith, but I'd bet the internal parts interchangeability would be much more so with the witness PS than with the CZ75.  The safety on it works just like a witness, which is different than the CZ75.  Without pulling my b6p out of the safe and looking to be sure, I think it also has the shorter mainspring setup of the witness instead of the more traditional CZ75 design. 

I remember seeing that video Rcher posted a few weeks back.  It's interesting but I agree, not a good comparison due to the different weight frames and all.

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2017, 08:17:52 AM »
Wasn't Sarsilmaz a contractor for Tanfoglio at one time?
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2017, 03:20:01 PM »
Very good video. Now I'm getting more tempted!!!!!That stainless MEGA
model has my eye!

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2017, 04:16:07 PM »
Wasn't Sarsilmaz a contractor for Tanfoglio at one time?

Yes!  Tanfoglio had Sarsilmaz doing production and Customer Service work for that area of the World for awhile and many Tanfoglio parts will still interchange on many Sarsilmaz Pistols.
About three or four years later, Sarsilmaz decided not to renew the Partnership and came out with versions of their own, but still using the same basic designs.
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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2017, 05:40:07 PM »
I tell ya, I'm nothing short of impressed with the Turks gun business.

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2017, 09:12:50 PM »
Another nice video from these guys, more detailed analysis of MEGA, magazines compatibility, SA/DA trigger review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq9KRRXq3Ew

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Re: SAR vs Canik quality?
« Reply #44 on: November 09, 2017, 04:19:57 PM »
Well any SAR will have to wait, I ordered another AR last night. Shame on me........................