Barrel/Slide peening on new RAMI

[congaree]

Thought I would ask for some informed options here.  I have a new RAMI with about 1000 rnds through it.  I just replaced the outer recoil spring with a new one at about 850 rounds.  I've noticed that I have some clear peening occurring between the top of the barrel and the slide that seems to be growing over time and has me a little worried.  Does anybody else see this kind of wear on the top of their barrel or is it just me?  I thought I would check here before I go to CZ-USA with it.

Below are some pics, though it may be hard to see.  The peened part of the barrel actually has a very small edge to it:

[MeatAxe]

Yeah, that doesn't look right. I'd send it back to CZ for evaluation / repairs. I had a supposedly "custom" SIG P239 do that, actually was shooting 6" low at 7 yards. Turned out to be bad machining inside the slide peening against the barrel lugs, similar to what you have.

What ammo have you been using?

[congaree]

Thanks, I didn't think so.  I've been using standard pressure 124 grain Sellier & Bellot and PPU Nato in it exclusively...mostly the S&B stuff.  The PPU is slightly hotter (NATO spec I guess), but definitely not +P.  So yeah, I think a second trip back to Kansas City seems to be in the cards.

[mecenas]

This is the area where the barrel locks up with the slide and takes the pressure during the discharge. That is the reason. Some peening is to be expected under the circumstances, but you have to watch it. Consultation with CZ with photos would certainly be a correct course of action

[congaree]

Of course, you're right.  I've contacted CZ about it, with pictures, and they are going to have me send it in.  This is a locked breech action pistol, basically like most others and I've never had a pistol with this type of action show this much wear in this area so soon.  It looks like CZ is interested on what is going on with this particular pistol.

[WNT]

I have an identical issue.  I got a new RAMI, fired 500 light target cartridges with no issues, but when I disassembled the gun, I saw the peening - much worse than yours, though.  I called CZ, and sent them pictures depicting the problem.  The gun is not safe to fire, and I will be sending it to CZ for repair under the warranty. 

This peening problem has never happened to any other guns I have, and this is completely unacceptable.  It is sad that CZ manufactures RAMI with such a bad quality. 

By way of speculation, I know that RAMI comes with "white" metal barrels, and our barrels are of "black / dark" metal.  Maybe "white" metal barrels do not have the same issue...  Maybe they are stronger...  Regardless, the quality is bad.   

[MeatAxe]

I have an identical issue.  I got a new RAMI, fired 500 light target cartridges with no issues, but when I disassembled the gun, I saw the peening - much worse than yours, though.  I called CZ, and sent them pictures depicting the problem.  The gun is not safe to fire, and I will be sending it to CZ for repair under the warranty. 

This peening problem has never happened to any other guns I have, and this is completely unacceptable.  It is sad that CZ manufactures RAMI with such a bad quality. 

By way of speculation, I know that RAMI comes with "white" metal barrels, and our barrels are of "black / dark" metal.  Maybe "white" metal barrels do not have the same issue...  Maybe they are stronger...  Regardless, the quality is bad.   

Every manufacturer of anything is going to churn out a lemon every once in a while, it's just human nature. What sets manufacturers apart is how they treat the customer when they get a dud and how they rectify it. By and large, from what I've seen and experienced, CZ is at the top as far as initial quality and service after the sale.

Compare that to my experience with SIG after I bought a $$$$ "custom" P239. This was supposed to be some super high-quality Custom Shop piece, but the bleep thing shot 6" low at 7 yards out of the box. SIG's response? "Shooter error"!!! Then SIG CS gave me some bullbleep line about having to follow their bullbleep "combat sight" picture which actually just introduces enough error in the point of aim to give SIG plenty of cover for the bleepty QC issues.

I noticed the barrel on the P239 was getting knackered similar to the OPs, which was obviously from shoddy machining inside the slide, which was interfering with the cycling and causing the gun to shoot low -- inside this "meticulously crafted and tested custom pistol." I sent the P239 into SIG for repairs. What did they do? They sent me a new barrel, which they had modded by hand to clear the out-of-spec machining inside the slide -- did nothing to rectify / replace the slide itself, which was the problem -- and charged me a $175 for the privilege since they gave me the runaround until the bleep thing fell out of warranty! SIG churns out a half million or so pistols a year with a commensurate drop in quality control, while still living of the reputation of the old West German and early Exeter SIGs. I'll never buy another SIG again.

The upside was, that I got thoroughly disgusted with SIG and bought my first CZs -- best decision I ever made in handguns.

[WNT]

I thought I replied to "congaree" and not to "MeatAxe".  I thought this forum was for a CZ RAMI, and not for a Sig Sauer P239?  Unsolicited opinions are not productive... 

Banned - completely solicited.

[Scarlett Pistol]

I have an identical issue.  I got a new RAMI, fired 500 light target cartridges with no issues, but when I disassembled the gun, I saw the peening - much worse than yours, though.  I called CZ, and sent them pictures depicting the problem.  The gun is not safe to fire, and I will be sending it to CZ for repair under the warranty. 

This peening problem has never happened to any other guns I have, and this is completely unacceptable.  It is sad that CZ manufactures RAMI with such a bad quality. 

Sorry to hear you had problems with your Rami. CZ will take care of it.

While you may not have seen this with any other guns, it happens to many models from many manufacturers. MeatAxe was sharing an example of an experience he had with just such an issue. I've had it as well with 2 pistols from 2 different manufacturers. It wasn't an unsolicited opinion, just a member trying to give additional perspective to the issue seen in the post.

You're right, you and the OP experienced bad quality. CZ has a great reputation for standing by their products when things go wrong, and fixing them. I didn't catch anything in MeatAxe's post that seemed directed at you in a way that required such a pointed response. I hope you stick around and realize this forum is full of people trying to help out and it's not like the majority of other forums where many people are huge jerks.

[cntrydawwwg]

Well said Scarlett Pistol. [emoji6]

[MeatAxe]

I thought I replied to "congaree" and not to "MeatAxe".  I thought this forum was for a CZ RAMI, and not for a Sig Sauer P239?  Unsolicited opinions are not productive...

LOL

I think you're having trouble with this "message board concept" -- if you make a post and you don't want "unsolicited opinions" back, then you're in the wrong place. Your two posts here have been amusing though, I'll give you that.

By all means, send your Rami back to CZ asap, have them repair it and then immediately trade it for something "completely acceptable" -- how about a SIG? I'm sure there'll be somebody out there to buy your Rami, especially as good as they are and as hard as they are to come by. The chief complaint that you hear about CZ pistols is that they fly off the shelves before most people can buy one. But I guarantee there are dozens of SiGs gathering dust on the shelves in every Academy Sports or Bass Pro Shop in the country right now, complete with rainbow or diamond plate finish, take your pick.

[Megapihar]

I thought I replied to "congaree" and not to "MeatAxe".  I thought this forum was for a CZ RAMI, and not for a Sig Sauer P239?  Unsolicited opinions are not productive...

LOL

I think you're having trouble with this "message board concept" -- if you make a post and you don't want "unsolicited opinions" back, then you're in the wrong place. Your two posts here have been amusing though, I'll give you that.

By all means, send your Rami back to CZ asap, have them repair it and then immediately trade it for something "completely acceptable" -- how about a SIG? I'm sure there'll be somebody out there to buy your Rami, especially as good as they are and as hard as they are to come by. The chief complaint that you hear about CZ pistols is that they fly off the shelves before most people can buy one. But I guarantee there are dozens of SiGs gathering dust on the shelves in every Academy Sports or Bass Pro Shop in the country right now, complete with rainbow or diamond plate finish, take your pick.

If you guys are capable of reading, you will see that WNT?s comments are the most helpful. While your comments are more like verbal diarrhea.


You are Flushed!

[Scarlett Pistol]

If you guys are capable of reading, you will see that WNT?s comments are the most helpful. While your comments are more like verbal diarrhea.

Did you register just to come troll? If there is an absolutely worthless comment on this entire thread it's yours. Everything else was being worked through and we were trying to keep things civil and helpful in our various ways. But thanks for registering to provide your extraordinarily relevant and helpful insight regarding the OP's issue!

[Grendel]

Dem guyz is gone

[Tyerone]

And is MeatAxe sititting in time out with all those bleeps?