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Offline eastman

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2018, 10:26:29 PM »
Option #3 but safety off

The safety on my RAMI can only be engaged with the hammer fully cocked, like my SP01.

Thanks  - that confirmed my belief about the RAMI safety
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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2018, 07:41:18 PM »
I  do not quite understand why would you want to have "safety" model RAMI, unless you plan to carry it cocked and locked. If you carry it with a chambered round and the hammer and half cock, it is exactly how you would carry BD model, particularly if you cannot engage safety with the hammer down or in half cock position -  so why not get a BD ?

Its just as easy to manually decock, although I sometimes use the safety when at the range, sharing it.

Some don't like the decocker's position relative to their hold.  I dont have a problem with it on my PCR.

I don't particularly like the tritium sights that come with the decocker version, nor do I want to pay extra for something I don't like.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2018, 12:23:14 AM »
I've never used the safety on two 75s with safeties.
If I carried one it would likely be at half cock and have a one pound heavier trigger pull.  Same shooting options for all my pistols...Pull the trigger to shoot.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2018, 05:12:29 PM »
I have the BD, not the B, so I can't confirm this, but for option 3, can you engage the safety on a RAMI B when the hammer is down?

Not sure on a RAMI but my 75 B will not allow you to engage the safety unless it is fully cocked.
My 75 B matte stainless allows safety on in half cocked position as well as full cocked.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2018, 05:40:06 PM »
Chambered, cocked and safety on like all my other pistols that have a manual safety and single action trigger.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2018, 06:18:01 PM »
Chambered, cocked and safety on like all my other pistols that have a manual safety and single action trigger.

I have several friends that always say they carry in Condition 1 (chambered, cocked, safety on), but when I check them, they never seem to actually have their firearm cocked. I typically carry 1/2 cocked and chambered, but if I am in an area where I perceive a real threat, I will carry in Condition 1 with the RAMI or the 75B. I seriously don't like decockers, and don't own any.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2018, 06:36:16 PM »
I'm with the frogwalker on this one:

Loaded, hammer down, safety off.

Why do I have a safety RAMI and don't use the safety? Well as someone else noted it was available and even more than that, the safety is less expensive enough to make a difference to me. On handguns that I own with decockers, I do use them but they are simply a convenience and I really see not advantage to having them other than a wee bit of convenience.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2018, 06:05:05 PM »
Also, although it is a safer process to manually decock to the half cock notch, I throw caution to the wind and bring the hammer all the way down on the Rami, which means you need the buger finger against the trigger for a much longer period, so the the FPB isn't there for you until you've completed the task.  I sometimes holster in the pocket and prefer the hammer all the way down.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2018, 07:36:25 PM »
Chambered, cocked and safety on like all my other pistols that have a manual safety and single action trigger.

I have several friends that always say they carry in Condition 1 (chambered, cocked, safety on), but when I check them, they never seem to actually have their firearm cocked. I typically carry 1/2 cocked and chambered, but if I am in an area where I perceive a real threat, I will carry in Condition 1 with the RAMI or the 75B. I seriously don't like decockers, and don't own any.

I carried a 1911 for years so it's ingrained in me and I've never had a problem with a single action gun and safety. It's either someone wants to have a double action fist shot or it's the person who has the mental block and can't get over having the hammer cocked.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2018, 07:45:46 PM »
Round chambered, half cock, safety off. As an aside, the safety CAN be applied at half cock on Cajunized RAMIs, but should not and need not be engaged.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2018, 10:45:06 PM »
loaded, hammer fully down. 

I dont see why the decocker models even exist If theyre only going to lower the hammer to half cock.  theres a firing pin block...


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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2018, 11:54:44 PM »
loaded, hammer fully down. 

I dont see why the decocker models even exist If theyre only going to lower the hammer to half cock.  theres a firing pin block...
   Because some people still have ND?s manually lowering a hammer. They need to learn to keep their booger hook off the trigger once the hammer starts moving.
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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2018, 03:07:14 AM »
......and, because for some people there is just not enough time to move the trigger finger off the trigger once the hammer starts moving. Once the trigger is pressed, it deactivates firing pin safety, so the whole idea of training is to learn to quickly move the finger of the trigger. For some it is difficult and that is exactly why decocker.
You would not believe how many accidents happen while trying to lower the hammer on the loaded chamber.

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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2018, 08:05:34 AM »
I don?t understand this. Surely the simplest method is:

- Hold hammer back
- pull trigger and hold to rear
- slowly lower hammer
- take finger of trigger

Simple but effective


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Re: Safety Model 1/2 cocked safety off?
« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2018, 09:08:46 AM »
Yes, simple. But by holding the trigger to the rear until hammer is lowered, you have defeated the FP block. That?s how ND?s happen. Once the hammer starts to lower, the trigger should be released. But to each there own. [emoji6]
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